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Princess Frances 08-19-2017 04:07 AM

Who prefers BBC Narnia?
To me, for all the CGI and extra money, the films aren't as good as BBC Narnia in a crucial aspect: the movies make you feel like your witnessing an epic, while because of their lower budget and production values, the BBC Chronicles feel like you're having a cosy, intimate adventure with friends.

Benisse 08-23-2017 02:46 AM

Well said, Princess Frances. In the Chronicles the battles are not the main point -- yet the climax of Prince Caspian the movie and LWW was all about the fighting.

tirian_son_of_erlian 09-14-2017 09:30 PM

I agree. They're awesome. In fact, back in 2005 when I first heard they were making new Narnia movies, my original thought was that I hoped they were going to pick up right where they left off and film the last three stories BBC style.

dawnpatrol 10-13-2017 05:00 PM

I received the BBC boxed set as a gift long ago and loved it. The low-budget added to it's charm IMO and from what I remember, was truer to the source material than the latest movies.

The Silver Chair - the actress who plays the green witch did an awesome job. She also played the white witch I believe.

I need to watch these again.

Princess Frances 11-11-2017 10:14 PM

The BBC stopped adapting them because the money got pulled. The Horse and his Boy was in preproduction when it was canceled.

I don't know how they'd have done The Last Battle, though. It's pure didacticism in the way the other books are not - although both it and The Horse and His Boy have some Middle Eastern stereotypes that would be seen as pretty racist now. I'm sure they'd have filmed Horse in 1991 if the money had been there - after all, Disney did Aladdin, which is also full of raging stereotypes. But I'm not so sure about now.

Silver Chair, mind you, is one of the best books of the series, and quite inoffensive. It's one of the least messagey, too.

Glenburne 11-11-2017 10:39 PM

Ha, at least Calormen isn't actually supposed to be the Middle East. Aladdin...let's just say that, for a bunch of people who are supposed to be medieval Muslims, they are about as unrealistic as it gets.

Princess Frances 11-15-2017 08:06 AM

For me it's TVoTDT that's the dealbreaker in "BBC vs. films" - Movie Lucy and the beauty spell... which Movie Lucy doesn't need!

tirian_son_of_erlian 11-21-2017 11:05 AM

The BBC Dawn Treador is a phenomenal masterpiece. The sequences in Coriakin's home are perfectly charming.

As for the Calormenes, Lewis was fearlessly prophetic in depicting the most barbaric principles of Islam (I think Tirian's horror at Aslan being called Tash, the god who fed off the blood of his people, summarizes that quite well). I would expect the same fearlessness from the producers of any true adaptation of The Last Battle.

Glenburne 11-21-2017 02:39 PM

In regard to the Calormenes, I do think it's important to keep in mind that Lewis probably was influenced by medieval misconceptions about Islam like The Song of Roland. In the epic, the Muslims are depicted as polytheists who dabble in black magic. I'm sure Lewis knew that is extremely incorrect. But if you're interested in adding color to your fantasy world, the inaccurate descriptions of Islam could serve as a stimulus of sorts, which I'm guessing is what they were to Lewis. At any rate, I don't think he was trying to make any point about Islam as such in how he depicted the Calormenes.

What I hope is that the Calormenes will be depicted accurately to the book if any future movie adaptation is made--Aravis's and Emeth's decisions to oppose their people would take on less meaning if the Calormenes were toned down in hopes of not offending the usual suspects. Filming HHB before TLB might help avoid that problem, as HHB shows broader Calormene culture in a non-apocalyptic context. Not holding my breath, though.

MrBob 11-21-2017 11:12 PM

"Movie Lucy and the beauty spell... which Movie Lucy doesn't need!"

Princess, remember that it doesn't matter what others think about you, but how you think of yourself. That was the problem with Lucy. In fact, Lewis stated at the end of LWW that Susan and Lucy both grew up to be desirable to the kings and princes.

BBC did a far better job at following the story of PC and VotDT than the movies. We'll have to see how the filmmakers handle TSC, but they do have a great BBC miniseries to look up to.


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