Jadis - White Witch

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Hi all,
I'm looking for something definitive about the White Witch being Jadis.

I've read the books many times over the years (but not recently; time for a re-read!) and I have this idea that somewhere it says something about Jadis being of the same ilk, but not the same person. Then again, maybe I am confusing this with the line where one of the owls says that they think the witch in the Silver Chair is from the "same crew" as the WW (SC Ch 4).

Maybe I'm distracted by the differences between Jadis in MN and WW in LWW - eg Empress of Charn descended from Charn's royal line vs daughter of Lilith, Adam's first wife and one of the Jinn/comes of the Giants (LWW Ch 8) and the Emperor-beyond-the-Sea's hangman (LWW Ch 13). eg Character differences - don't seem the same. Or -bearing in mind that I read these books as a young child and those impressions still stick! - maybe I am just distracted by the differences between Pauline Baynes' pictures of WW and Jadis!

Warning, I want proof - from the books!!!

I know Aslan refers to the coming of Evil (Jadis) into Narnia as "Evil will come of that evil" (may not be exact words!) which presumably means the WW is a result of Jadis coming to Narnia. However I don't see that that necessarily means that Jadis = WW.

Any evidence welcome! :confused:
 
In LWW, when the kids read the decree by Maugrim (or Fenris Ulf, depending on the edition), it mentions Jadis by name.
 
Dragon said:
In LWW, when the kids read the decree by Maugrim (or Fenris Ulf, depending on the edition), it mentions Jadis by name.
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This is correct, Dragon. Likeyour new avi ... the Wonka one didn't last? (Or was that you?I'm feeble-minded sometimes.)

Welcome, DEP -- didn't see you post before.
 
From the Fontan Lions Pub 1980: p.57:
"...the Faun Tumnus, is under arrest and awaiting his trial on a charge of High Treason against her Imperial Majesty Jadis, Queen of Narnia, Chatelaine of Cair Paravel" etc etc
 
See PRINCE CASPIAN in the chapter when the Pevensie boys are listening outside the door to the interchange between Caspian, Trufflehunter, Nickabrick, and the old woman and werewolf! A very enlightening bit of conversation they overhear! But I won't spoil it for those as have not read it~yet.
 
my sis just recenlty fiished Magicians nephew, but she doesnt really remember about who bit thew apple, she know they were talking about some apple.I am trying to get her to read CON, but she was a little bored with Mn, maybe if she reads more of them she will like them
 
It never really showed her eating the apple, but threw the impression I got, she did bite the apple, because her face became pale, and she was saying to Digory that he could use the apple for his own deeds (I won't spoil the book.) Just from all the changes that she under goes, I believe she did bite the apple.
 
She ate the apple which horribly stained her mouth. She discarded it after eating it. You must review the warning on the gate!
 
Aha! I found my book! I will now quote from it,

"There, only a few yards away from him, stood the witch. She was just throwing away the core of an apple which she had eaten." Page 149, An unexpected meeting, HarperCollins Publishers Ltd, 1980.
 
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She ate the apple, and she couldn't die, but her life was not always a life anyone would want -- like Voldemort, a half-life, a hideous life, but a life of sorts. That's why in Prince Caspian the hag says that Jadis' kind never really dies, she can be brought back or summoned up if they want her.
 
=3 Hmmm, Jadiss Was pretty much Immortal (Not completely) In the Magicians nephew she became (Mostly) immortal after eating the apple (Core not included X_X) , Then in the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe she becomes the White Witch , and Finally in the Silver Chair she's the Lady of the Green Kirtle and uhh gets killed o_O
 
Well, in the Magician's Nephew she ate the apple that was said to cause her to live forever.
 
Zaffie said:
=3 Hmmm, Jadiss Was pretty much Immortal (Not completely) In the Magicians nephew she became (Mostly) immortal after eating the apple (Core not included X_X) , Then in the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe she becomes the White Witch , and Finally in the Silver Chair she's the Lady of the Green Kirtle and uhh gets killed o_O
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are you sure that she's the one in the Silver Chair (the lady of the green kirtle)? i tought that the book said that she was of the same type as the WW, not that she was the same person.
 
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