Mortality/Immortality of White Witch

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In the Magician's Nephew, Aslan said that, Jadis is immortal because she ate an apple, which makes you immortal, eventhough it's also accused (because of that, her face turned white and people call her white witch). But in the "The Lion, The Witch, and the wardrope" Jadis is killed. I have not read the Silver Chair and the Last Battel yet, so I don't know the answer whether in them or not. In sum, what is the reason that makes Jadis mortal again?
 
Maybe "immortal" means that she wont die of old age or sicknees, but can still be killed by supernatrual powers, which Aslan had. I dont realy know.
 
That's the ususal definition of immortal - you don't die naturally. In Nordic mythology, the gods are immortal, but Balder was killed by Loki with a spear.
 
Jadis is finally destroyed in the later books. Its like the thing hindus believe in......can't think of the word but she returns in various evil forms. Like the Black riders when they were "killed" in the ford but were simply dissembled and unhorsed. Then they came back worse. Not until Sauron is destroyed do they die, pretty much the same with Jadis
 
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I think the point is, evil never goes away, just changes name/shape/form.

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excellent point, this combined with one of my favorite lines from pc, the hag saying 'whoever heard of a witch who really died?', is what has always lead me to believe she didnt die, not completely anyway
 
The very thought that Jadis is "The Green Lady" is far-fetched and very much out of place. I am assuming this lie started floating around after the BBC movies came out, when Barbara Kellerman (who played Jadis) also played the Green Lady.

Jadis was destroyed ultimately in LWW. In PC, there were a few evil minions that were desirous to bring her back from the dead, but they were thwarted by timely intervention on behalf of our story's heroes.

No, Jadis has nothing to do with the Green Lady. In The Silver Chair, it is said by the owl Glimfeather that the Green Lady "was of the same crew" as the White Witch, probably no more than a mere servant.
 
Saruman is right. I think people are confused because the same actress plays both Jadis and the Lady of the Green Kirtle in the BBC version.
 
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Oh, that explains a lot. I'm very much of Saruman's opinion, though I admit that I'd never thought of the possibility that she'd been a minion of Jadis'. Of course, realize that there were probably 1000 years or so between when Jadis died and Caspian/Rilian's time. Truth is, the "Emerald Witch" (or whatever her name was) is one of the most mysterious beings in the series. Who she was, where she came from, where she got her powers, and why she had her sights on Narnia is all left unexplained. The closest explanation you get is that she was "one of those Northern witches". Wierd.
 
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Let's remember Aslan is killed also and is brought back by higher magic. Yes, the white witch was killed in LWW, but the hag was right in PC, in that, Jadis could be brought back if the right magic was used. I always felt LB would have been better if Jadis was called back and not just Tash. :) Also yes I agree the Green lady was not Jadis. Yet, Lewis made both characters very similar in personality. Where did she come from? Jadis came from Charm. Remind me to ask Jack when I get to heaven :D .
 
some clarifications. In the Magician's Nephew, Aslan tells Diggory that because Jadis ate the apple she will have unnatural long life, he never says anything about immortality. Second, Narnians refer to the Lady of the Green Kirtle as another one of those witches from the North. technically Jadis is from Charn, the Narnians consider her a northern witch because when she came back to Narnia it was from the North. THey are not the same person at all. Jadis died in the LWW and Green lady died in SC.
As far as Tash being called in being worse than calling Jadis, duh! Tash is in a sense Satan whereas the Jadis is more like a very powerful demon. Tash has far more power in one sense than jadis would ever have.
 
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