Atlantean Dust and Magical Rings:

Well, one needs to only look at what Andrew's aunts name is...Mrs. LeFay. Lewis drew the name from Morgan LeFay in the Arthurian Legends. While it may be simply implied that she is Morgan from the legends. It's nto to say she couldn't be both the Morgan from Arthru's stories and an Atlantian. If in That Hideous Strength Merlin is from Atlantis then she could be too.

As for how Morgan could came upon it, if she were Atlantian I'd like to submit Clarke's Third Law: " The Technology of any suffiecently advanced culture woudl appear as indistingushable from magic to the unadvanced mind." Basically according to the legends ( which both Lewis and Tolkien adhered to in their own legnedarium) Atlantis was the most advanced civilization ever. This would mean by some means they could develop the means of making the extra-demensional journey to the wood between the world.

It could also help retcon Jadis's origin too. Remember how in TL,TW,TW, ( novel.) Mr. Beaver said that the witch was descended from Lilith, Adam's first wife? Well, That is how she could both be from Charn and descended from Lillith. Lillith's clan makes the journey to Atlantis, dsicovers the means to get to Charn, and takes it over by there sheer force of will. Then over time the gradually grow worse and worse untill Jadis desrtoyed it with the Deplorable Word.

Meanwhile in our world, Atlantis sinks, Morgain and Merlin head to Briton and the rest they say is history.

My theory at least.
 
Another interesting theory, and it makes a lot of sense too, Sven. I think Lewis would've liked it.
 
"It's all in Plato ( well... at least Atlantis is.) All in Plato. Bless me, what are they teaching in these schools?" :D

And thanks... to be honest you all are much more accepting of my theory thene ven some in my literature classes in college were.
 
I really like that theory - it makes alot of sense! I might not agree that the godmother WAS Morgana Le Fay but certainly it would make sense that she was descended from her.
 
Actually Le Fay means The Fairy.

It's used to indicate magic or a certain type of mythical being more than a relationship between people.

And it was said that this woman was a real fairy godmother.
 
i am actually writing a fanfic deeling with this dust and the wood between the worlds, so my sister and i have been pouring over the books trying to find out about it lol
 
Uncle Andrew said he "discovered" it was Atlantean, but he doesn't really know what he's dealing with, so I don't think he's a reliable source.
 
the pond between the trees near the Kilns

PrinceOfTheWest said:
Well, I don't think it's clear that the dust is from "other places" - I seem to remember that it all came from the Wood, somehow. It's just that some of it "wanted" to return and some of it "wanted" to depart.
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One of the aspects of Lewis' writing style that I like a lot is the way he can create something that is imaginary and make it concrete and unforgettable in such simple prose. The Wood between the Worlds is one such place, with the peace and sleepiness and hush and greeness so vivid and poignant.

In 2003 I got to visit Oxford, and to my delight found that, within short walking distance of the Kilns (the home of Lewis), there was a quiet woody area with a small pond, green with duck moss and surrounded by sleepy overhanging trees. In my imagination I could see this serene setting mulitplied and silently morphing into the Wood between the Worlds. Thinking of that scene even now refreshes me and makes me long to go back, to learn more, to sit and reflect...
blessings,
Benisse
 
the wood between teh worlds is such an interesting concept. i almost wanted to go there more than narnia when i was little:eek:
 
Aslan said there were holes between worlds, so atlanteans could get the dust through one of them.

Hmm... I wonder if Narnia is connected to the Cthulhu Mythos. :eek:
 
Sven-El said:
Well, one needs to only look at what Andrew's aunts name is...Mrs. LeFay. Lewis drew the name from Morgan LeFay in the Arthurian Legends. While it may be simply implied that she is Morgan from the legends. It's nto to say she couldn't be both the Morgan from Arthru's stories and an Atlantian. If in That Hideous Strength Merlin is from Atlantis then she could be too.
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Interesting postscript to this is since she is partly of fairy blood (of which the surname LeFay is an obvious hint) is that in some non-biblical medieval christian mythology the inhabitants of the fairy realm are sometimes refered to as `children of Lillith`.
 
Vanzetti said:
Aslan said there were holes between worlds, so atlanteans could get the dust through one of them.

Hmm... I wonder if Narnia is connected to the Cthulhu Mythos. :eek:
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Or could there be a bunch of lunatic dwarfs with a map of the holes running about all of space and time, ripping people of as in `Time Bandits`.
 
Sven-El said:
Well, one needs to only look at what Andrew's aunts name is...Mrs. LeFay. Lewis drew the name from Morgan LeFay in the Arthurian Legends. While it may be simply implied that she is Morgan from the legends. It's nto to say she couldn't be both the Morgan from Arthru's stories and an Atlantian. If in That Hideous Strength Merlin is from Atlantis then she could be too.
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That's really interesting. I'm guessing that the Cosmic Trilogy took place around the same time as the Earth portion of the Narnia books, and if Merlin is still alive in the CT, I don't see why it can't be Morgan in the CoN. Her personality fits what I've read about Morgan's personality.

I've never actually read all of the CT. Could you build a textual case for them referencing each other that way? After all, Lewis established that the CoN takes place in the same incarnation of England that the Sherlock Holmes stories do.

Slightly off-topic: MN says there were two other women with fairy blood -- a dutchess and a charwoman. Any ideas who they might be?
 
MRW said:
Slightly off-topic: MN says there were two other women with fairy blood -- a dutchess and a charwoman. Any ideas who they might be?
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My speculation is that Lewis didn't have anyone in mind when he wrote that - it was just a toss-off statement to lend an air of legitimacy (i.e. that Uncle Andrew had done his homework.)

I'd be really shocked if there were any connection between anything about Narnia and the Cthulhu Mythos!

I'm not familiar with the Cosmic Trilogy - what's that? Is that The Mists of Avalon?
 
I'm not familiar with the Cosmic Trilogy - what's that? Is that The Mists of Avalon?
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It's a sci-fi trilogy that Lewis wrote. The books are: Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra, That Hideous Strength. Like Narnia, they have very strong Christian undertones and themes. You can read more about them here. I've only read OotSP, and years ago at that so I don't remember it well.
 
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