Disney no longer partnered with Walden for Voyage

judyfromkansas said:
I think my heart's broken...I've had a bad feeling about Dawn Treader ever since Caspian performed below par...but still, this news is a shock. It makes me very angry at Disney, and that's a rare thing for me. I'm a huge fan of Disney...well, of WALT Disney, anyway; he was not only a genius, but according to every reliable and honest source, he was a very good man too. But this news makes me respect the current Disney company a lot less. It makes me feel like Disney wasn't really fully behind Narnia to begin with. Uncle Walt would never have given up on something if he believed in it, if he thought it was good. This seems out of character for Disney somehow...

I will say that I think that Adamson never really 'got' the books as he should have. LWW was pretty good - as a Narnia film - but the book is sooooooooooooo much better. (I feel just the opposite about the Potter films - they are so much better than the books it's almost sad. Rowling, for all her success, is a pretty mediocre writer IMO, and the films brought her books to life much better than she could). And as for Caspian...it was *barely* a Narnia film at all. That whole stupid battle in the castle where a bunch of Narnians get left behind and slaughtered...why was that even freaking necessary? And don't get me started about Reepicheep. He was a joke in the movie, nothing more. Desperaux is far more like Reep than that silly shallow mouse in the Caspian film. It really burns me that Adamson had so little faith in the Narnia books that have been in print over 50 years that he felt he had to dumb-down the script, leave out chunks of the story, and infuse a bunch of unnecessary violence. If Disney had little faith in Narnia, Adamson had even less.

And I don't know about another partner for the films...will any studio touch the franchise now? And will audiences go to see a movie series that Disney so unceremoniously dumped? It's like the franchise is tainted now. Geez, what a bummer...

I was planning to go see Bedtime Stories this weekend, but you know what? Forget it. I won't say I'll never see another Disney film...again, my regard for Walt is too high...but no way I'm giving Disney any of my dollars this weekend of Christmas - not after the big fat lump of coal it's put in my Narnia-loving stocking! :(
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Hahaha.. We've been saying the same thing about PC ever since it came out. Like CF says" it was the movie Prince Non-Caspian" LOL.

And I don't give Disney my hard earned money unless is absolutely something I want. I own maybe 5 Disney movies total, including the two Narnia ones. I don't go to Disneyland, and I haven't been to the theater to watch their movies since Toy Story. I never cared about Disney and never will. They are like any other business: profits.
 
If my family doesn't feel the Disney movie is worth it's money, we don't give them any. The GOOD Disney films are the ones we own, and my dad said in 2005 we should show appreciation to Disney for helping produce LWW by seeing the film, but I don't think he would have been very pleased this time either.

The one thing I've noticed about Prince Caspian, especially in the BluRay TV commercials, is that Disney seems to trying to make the movie look like it's one of their own original works, and not the work of C.S. Lewis. That's money with triple $$$'s talking right there. The money deluge (I think that's the right word) that LWW produced probably gave everyone the money signs in their eyes and they probably lost a bit of the focus on the meaning of the story.

We should really pray that God's message that exists in the Chronicles will become a forefront thought in the writers and production teams minds, although maybe not explicitly. If God wants to spread His message through these movies, then I think the movie will turn out alright and be true to the story and spirit of the book.
 
Ok, so I've heard that part of the reason for Disney pulling out is because PC didn't make back enough money. First off I agree with people saying that it wasn't put out at the right time and wasn't marketed enough but there's another thing that bugs me about this. If you look on http://www.boxofficemojo.com and search Prince Caspian, you can clearly see that PC made over twice their money back. There have been movies made with less than that made back. I, personally think that Disney is made that PC didn't make as much in domestic market as they would have liked. It's nothing against Disney I just think it's stupid cause these books are british and why shouldn't it succeed more in the foreign market. As a filmmaker I can't understand this cause the movie did exactly what it was suppose to do and that is make its money back and more as well as entertain everyone. Fox and any other production company would be stupid to not take the series on because this is a multi-million dollar franchise. I am in disbelief at Disney and am thoroughly disappointed in them. Also I don't think that a switch in company's would affect the series cause true fans shouldn't care who finances half of the film.

Kathy
 
BarbarianKing said:
I never cared about Disney and never will. They are like any other business: profits.
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Ah... You gotta think about Pixar. They're the last band of the movie makers who actually make movies they want to see themselves, and make them not for profit, but for challenges and enjoyment. In fact, "Toy Story" wasn't made to be a blockbuster, but rather just for pure fun. Lassetter did not plan for it to succeed in theaters. There isn't a Pixar movie I've seen that I didn't like. Of course there are some I enjoy more than others, but the stories they conjure up are all original, and family-friendly. :)
 
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Well this stinks. This is what I found:

How Disney Killed Off Its Billion-Dollar 'Narnia' Franchise

Disney announced today that it will not continue filming the Chronicles of Narnia series, prematurely snuffing an enormous franchise that the studio had clearly positioned as its Harry Potter. Here's why we're not surprised.

Eventually, the Narnia franchise was always going to present something of a challenge to put on film. Though it contains seven books, just like Potter, it's hard to imagine that Disney would ever bankroll a $200 million production of a novel as flimsy as The Horse and His Boy. And though we would have loved to see the studio deal with some of the crazy situations served up in the series' apocalyptic final book (like the premise that The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe's dear, sweet Susan can't get into Heaven because she committed the cardinal sin of wearing lipstick and is thus no longer a "friend of Narnia"), we suppose we'll just have to stave off those hopes unless Fox picks the franchise up and guides it to its moralizing conclusion.

Still, it should have been clear this was coming: Disney had long ago readied Michael Apted to begin pre-production on Steven Knight's adaptation of The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (the series's third book), then remained conspicuously quiet on the matter after the first sequel, Prince Caspian, performed below expectations. Here's the thing, though: the fizzling of Prince Caspian was all Disney's fault.

One of the perils of adapting the Narnia series is that the four original, much-loved children from Wardrobe don't stick around for many further installments. However, they still remain in Caspian — so why didn't Disney choose to advertise that fact instead of putting franchise newcomer Ben Barnes (as Caspian) front and center in its advertising campaign (left)? With the trailers' high emphasis on action, CG battles, and a generic hero and villain, it came off as Eragon 2 instead of the continuation of a family franchise.

Disney also erred in its choice of release date for Caspian. The original, religion-tinged Wardrobe cleaned up in a Christmas-adjacent December slot where it eventually grossed almost five times its opening weekend figure—a practically unheard-of multiplier for such an enormous film. However, Disney tossed Caspian to the wolves in its summer slot this year: no religious holidays, an unusually family-friendly slate of competition that wedged it right in between Iron Man and Indy, and a brutal landscape of screen turnover that allowed it little chance of retaining its multiplier (even the leggy Iron Man only grossed triple its opening weekend). Perhaps Disney was rushing the film, or perhaps they were afraid of going up against the Harry Potter sequel that was originally scheduled for this winter, but it's hard to argue that the studio wouldn't have found more success with Caspian right now.

Good job screwing up a good thing, Disney. Now we'll never get to see that hot centaur spinoff featuring James McAvoy!
 
I see a whole wall of benefits here. The only funny thing in Prince Caspian was Lucy's butterknife and they even sacrificed storyline for that ending joke in LWW. If I hear one more cringe worthy Reepicheep/rodent joke, that's it man.
 
I think Protagonist is referring to the scene in the Caspian movie when Lucy steps onto the bridge in plain view of the Telmarines, displaying her dagger as if they all should be afraid of it. I know that YOU, Kim, did not see this as a joke at all, since on your view Lucy should ACTUALLY be able to defeat the entire Telmarine army all by herself. :p But it was intended as a joke, for a moment later Aslan became visible beside her and made it plain that HIS presence was why Lucy feared nothing. For me, that moment was one of the VERY FEW things done WELL in the movie.
 
Copperfox said:
I think Protagonist is referring to the scene in the Caspian movie when Lucy steps onto the bridge in plain view of the Telmarines, displaying her dagger as if they all should be afraid of it. I know that YOU, Kim, did not see this as a joke at all, since on your view Lucy should ACTUALLY be able to defeat the entire Telmarine army all by herself. :p But it was intended as a joke, for a moment later Aslan became visible beside her and made it plain that HIS presence was why Lucy feared nothing. For me, that moment was one of the VERY FEW things done WELL in the movie.
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oh:p i did get that in the movie!
I got thrown off cuz I was thinking of the Beaver's dinner scene in LWW.
 
Many companies today sadden me. All they do is look at the money. If Disney would look past the money, they would make much more of it. With LWW, they made it into a good family movie, not worrying about whether or not they would make hundreds of millions of dollars off of it, and by doing that, they did make tons of money. With PC, all they cared about was making as much, if not more, money than LWW. They thought that by changing PC to somewhat reflect a modern day action movie, with tons of battles, main characters ripping at each others' throats, and as many dark themes as possible, they could make even more money than LWW, not realizing that most of LWW's money came from families, not people who like darker films, and because they made it darker, many of them didn't go to see PC. That combined with the fact that the release date was timed completely wrong caused PC not to live up to their standards, only making $403 million American dollars, instead of LWW's impressive $744 million. And now, because of their mistakes, Disney is ditching the film.
 
I don't think anybody's said this, but Disney did not write the films; the companies aren't responsible for the content of the film. That belongs to the writers, producers, and director. NOT to the company or distribution company. Okay? don't blame Disney for the success or failure of anything; the only reason most films released by Disney are successful are because they support family films and they've always done that. They've always supported clean things *although I'd say in more modern times they have lowered their standards*. Adamson and his team were responsible for the films; not Disney. Not even Walden Media. They just added the names to the film to distribute it.
 
True, but they're still responsible for the release date, which most people agree was wrongly timed. I also saw something about how Walden wanted a $140 million budget, but Disney was only giving $100 million, so Disney might've dropped it because they didn't want to give as much money as Walden wanted.
 
Yeah that was a bad decision. OF course, had Iron Man not done so well, I think PC might have had a better chance. But it should have been a fall or winter release instead of summer. There's way too much competition in the summer.
 
Yeah, and the whole Narnia/fantasy thing goes lots better in Christmastime.

On an entirely off-topic note, I just about had a heart attack. We're in a tornado watch zone, and the warning part of the storm is coming this way. I thought it was a tornado, but it was only a plane.:D
 
Unfortunately, money is NOT the only reason why moviemakers love to ruin a noble story on purpose. There is also a psychological issue of self-justification on the part of many directors, writers, etc. As part of the Holly-Woodlouse infraculture, many of them live wicked, filthy lifestyles in the real world...and they want to "justify" this by convincing themselves that "everyone does it." Therefore, they hate a story which reminds them of higher moral standards, and they'll grab an opportunity to vandalize it.

I once began a thread called "Losing the Concept of Virtue." I opened it with an illustration of how Ted Turner, an immoral mocker of God, produced a remake of the Western movie "High Noon," SO THAT he could lower its moral standards. Turner didn't need to do that, he WANTED to do it.
 
That is mesesed up i just hope 20th century fox don't mess up Narnia if it does i will be mad. i think they both will be back for hhb i think and i hope William will be back for LB i couldn't picture someone else playing pete.
 
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