Narnia got 3 nominations at OSCARS

I only remember way back when I saw 'Out of Africa' after it won the most awards at the Oscars for the year it was released, but I was a teenager and fell asleep at the theater. Later I watched 'The English Patient' (another winner for its perspective year) and the very same thing happened. I don't know what I would think about Narnia winning, because it's so good and the other films people made a big deal about were such snooze-fests for me. :D I know, I'm weird. ;) Of course, the more recognition, the more likely there will be future films, so bring it on. :)
 
ChildOfAslan7 said:
cool! can't wait! i know that Narnia is awesome an all, but i'm not sure if they're going to win anything........Hollywood is so biased!
Maybe I'm pessimistic but I doubt it will win any awards. Hollywood snubs anything that is backed-up by Christians, and they only seem to award their "buddies" now a days, like "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" etc

I say the important thing is that the masses will remember Narnia while most of the films Hollywood favours seem to go unnoticed/forgotten :D
 
Christine Marie said:
Maybe I'm pessimistic but I doubt it will win any awards. Hollywood snubs anything that is backed-up by Christians, and they only seem to award their "buddies" now a days, like "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" etc

I say the important thing is that the masses will remember Narnia while most of the films Hollywood favours seem to go unnoticed/forgotten :D
ditto, i totally agree!
 
well, in that case, hollywood's face must look terrible because they keep getting hit. you'd think they'd learn to either catch or duck.
 
Narnia was Nominated?!?!?!?! *does that happy hobbit dance* YAY! I was worried becasue i handt heard any thing about the awards the only thing i heard was that Brokeback Mountain was nominated for 9? ( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
YAY! I Hope Narnia gets those awards! This movie definantly deserves it :) Espesially becasue it bounced back into first place after 2 weeks of being in second :)
 
Pippin said:
Narnia was Nominated?!?!?!?! *does that happy hobbit dance* YAY! I was worried becasue i handt heard any thing about the awards the only thing i heard was that Brokeback Mountain was nominated for 9? ( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
YAY! I Hope Narnia gets those awards! This movie definantly deserves it :) Espesially becasue it bounced back into first place after 2 weeks of being in second :)

Totally agree!!!!! I also hope Narnia wins those 3 awards!
 
As some of the folks here have said about Hollywood snubbing the rest of the world, I really cannot help but agree (even if the examples I cited above were not filmed in Hollywood, but elsewhere). The fact that Narnia was not filmed in Hollywood says plenty about the possible backlash from those who support films and shows being made there.

I read somewhere, I believe it was a Canadian newspaper when I was in Calgary some years ago about how Hollywood is trying to 'monopolize' on filming places in North America. There was a big legal to-do about a western film being made in Canada because it was cheaper to produce, and then Hollywood going bananas because of it. My Canadian friends had very strong feelings about that, as you can probably imagine. At any rate, I don't know what eventually happened, but politics sadly has a role in just about everything.

I would also be willing to bet that when the Oscar winners are revealed, that there will be some serious backscratching going on. The other thing is I think people (in general) need to stop trying to force Narnia into the corner of being a 'Christian' or 'sectularly' based film. The critics are complaining because the film is getting so much support and hooplah from Christian groups, and the Christians are complaining that the Critics aren't taking the film seriously. I understand people's faith and their ideological stance, but speaking as someone not affiliated with either, I think that both groups (the Critics and the Christians) should take a step back and look at the film more objectively. People here may hate me for saying that, but it's my opinion and this is from someone who never accepted or agreed with the whole allegorical undertones behind 'Narnia'.
 
Namaste said:
As some of the folks here have said about Hollywood snubbing the rest of the world, I really cannot help but agree (even if the examples I cited above were not filmed in Hollywood, but elsewhere). The fact that Narnia was not filmed in Hollywood says plenty about the possible backlash from those who support films and shows being made there.
I have to disagree with you about that. A lot of films that Hollywood loves were not only not filmed in Hollywood but some completely made by foreigners, such as LOTR's and this years hyped film "Brokeback Mountain"

I would also be willing to bet that when the Oscar winners are revealed, that there will be some serious backscratching going on. The other thing is I think people (in general) need to stop trying to force Narnia into the corner of being a 'Christian' or 'sectularly' based film. The critics are complaining because the film is getting so much support and hooplah from Christian groups, and the Christians are complaining that the Critics aren't taking the film seriously. I understand people's faith and their ideological stance, but speaking as someone not affiliated with either, I think that both groups (the Critics and the Christians) should take a step back and look at the film more objectively. People here may hate me for saying that, but it's my opinion and this is from someone who never accepted or agreed with the whole allegorical undertones behind 'Narnia'.
But is it fair that the critic's dislike a film based on it's meaning and not on how bad it may be? I don't think it is.
To me, that's like saying you hate 'The Pianist' because you don't like the Jews, and not because you don't like the writing/acting/directing, etc.

In terms of being objective about the Christian undertones, well, it's hard to be objective about something that the author admitted to including. Then again, if you don't believe in the Bible then Narnia shouldn't offend you anymore then the Greek mythology written into it as well.
 
Christine Marie said:
I have to disagree with you about that. A lot of films that Hollywood loves were not only not filmed in Hollywood but some completely made by foreigners, such as LOTR's and this years hyped film "Brokeback Mountain"

perhaps, but read my posting closer, I said that this was several years ago, before LOTR was big news. I don't know how it is today because I don't live there anymore.

But is it fair that the critic's dislike a film based on it's meaning and not on how bad it may be? I don't think it is.

No matter what it is you are talking about, critics are going to be subjective (that is they are going to go with what they think), that's their job, to say 'I like this', and 'I don't like that'. The sad truth is a lot of people judge things without seeing them first. How different is someone judging say, Harry Potter without having even read the books but taking someone else's word for it? There have been more people who are Christian saying this sort of thing about Harry Potter (no not all do, but this is an example). Some will do this subconsciously with things they don't agree with and at the same time, getting upset with others for doing this with Narnia.

We have to really be careful, especially when it comes to interpretation or beliefs and one thing is clear, movie premises and whether a critic likes it or not are always going to be subjective. And the more people try to push theological concepts onto others, the more people are psychologically going to balk. It's human nature, and I've had 20 something years of experience with this very thing when I was living in Texas.

In terms of being objective about the Christian undertones, well, it's hard to be objective about something that the author admitted to including. Then again, if you don't believe in the Bible then Narnia shouldn't offend you anymore then the Greek mythology written into it as well.

I am not a Christian in my belief system, that has been established by many Christians as well as by my own interpretations, and I love Narnia. There is nothing that offends me more than for people to say 'in order to love Narnia, you have to be a Christian'. To limit that, does the stories more disservice than anyone can imagine, and my argument is that perhaps unconsciously, people have done this so much that the critics get turned off. Perhaps you cannot understand it because it is different than your faith, but it does happen, because it did happen with me.
 
coming from the standpoint of one who loves how so much of narnia corresponds with my own faith I love the Christian aspect of Narnia. Having said that, I completely agree on the critic vs. christian debate Namaste. I'm tired of these groups putting it in a corner. Narnia is a fantastic film, whether you judge it by entertainment standards or religious standards. and really Lewis includes so much more than just Christianity in there. I definitely think everyone needs to pull back and look at it as a great movie. After all, Lewis himself said that if a book is worth reading when you're 5 then its worth reading when you're 50. the movie off of his books should work the same way. its a wonderful story. who wants to worry about politics?
 
Namaste said:
perhaps, but read my posting closer, I said that this was several years ago, before LOTR was big news. I don't know how it is today because I don't live there anymore.
Ah, okay :)

No matter what it is you are talking about, critics are going to be subjective (that is they are going to go with what they think), that's their job, to say 'I like this', and 'I don't like that'. The sad truth is a lot of people judge things without seeing them first.How different is someone judging say, Harry Potter without having even read the books but taking someone else's word for it? There have been more people who are Christian saying this sort of thing about Harry Potter (no not all do, but this is an example). Some will do this subconsciously with things they don't agree with and at the same time, getting upset with others for doing this with Narnia.
I don't care much for Harry Potter but I won't be the one telling people they can't enjoy it. So, yes, I'm not a supporter of the Christian censoring groups who continue to slam the series.
If you don't want to see it, don't watch it! :D

We have to really be careful, especially when it comes to interpretation or beliefs and one thing is clear, movie premises and whether a critic likes it or not are always going to be subjective. And the more people try to push theological concepts onto others, the more people are psychologically going to balk. It's human nature, and I've had 20 something years of experience with this very thing when I was living in Texas.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree because I find that Hollywood tries to promote more anti-theological films then pro

I am not a Christian in my belief system, that has been established by many Christians as well as by my own interpretations, and I love Narnia. There is nothing that offends me more than for people to say 'in order to love Narnia, you have to be a Christian'. To limit that, does the stories more disservice than anyone can imagine, and my argument is that perhaps unconsciously, people have done this so much that the critics get turned off. Perhaps you cannot understand it because it is different than your faith, but it does happen, because it did happen with me.
I don't think you have to be Christian in order to enjoy Narnia, which is why I said the Christian themes/undertones should offend you no more then the Greek mythology that's in them, if you're not a Christian.
In terms of the critics; if they chose to be biased, even it is subconsciously, they're in the wrong business. Reviews calling the film "Christian propaganda" belong on political blogs and papers, not movie review sites and papers

onlymystory,
I agree with about how some Christian groups are promoting the film simply because it's Christian and not because they like, or even know, anything about the stories. I don't condone people supporting Narnia just for the Christian themes, since it's only an undertone to a terrific fiction story
 
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Just one little thing, I can't speak for Namaste, but I think she was saying more that because no critic or really anyone else can be objective, their subjective opinions will offend people. Not only theologically, but just in general. A reviewer who really loves Tom Cruise is going to give a much more glowing review of MI-3 than I would as someone who can't stand him. And I would automatically think that the reviewer was biased because of my own biases. It gets more confusing when we try to deal with actual moral beliefs of individuals. (One reason Brokeback Mountain is so popular. Its controversy is propelling it more than its entertainment value.)
 
Namaste said:
I only remember way back when I saw 'Out of Africa' after it won the most awards at the Oscars for the year it was released, but I was a teenager and fell asleep at the theater. Later I watched 'The English Patient' (another winner for its perspective year) and the very same thing happened. I don't know what I would think about Narnia winning, because it's so good and the other films people made a big deal about were such snooze-fests for me. :D I know, I'm weird. ;) Of course, the more recognition, the more likely there will be future films, so bring it on. :)


Why is it that the big oscar winners always make people fall asleep? I fell asleep during Chicago a couple of years ago. This year I returned The Constant Garder to the video store becuase I watched for like 30 minutes and was completely uninterested. I think that the oscars are nothing but a chance for hollywood to reward some film for having the best marketing (read kissing up to the judges) team. Anything that is wierd, controversial, or overly dramatic is always a shoo-in for a slew of awards. Hollywood is interested in patting its favored children (read tabloid headliners) on the head and telling them that they did good job. With a few exceptions (Braveheart, and Return of the King for example) the oscars are a big farce!
Honestly it doesn't matter what the oscars say, its the movie goes who decide how good a movie is, and this year they said that Star Wars, Narnia, and Harry Potter were the best movies of the year!
 
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