Peepiceek's Odd-One-Out Quiz

#3.
(a) Frank
(b) Edmund
(c) Cor
(d) Caspian

This one is c. Cor is the only non-Narnian king.

#5.
(a) Aslan
(b) One of Lord Bar’s knights
(c) Bree
(d) Reepicheep

Reep was the only one not in H&HB

MrBob
 
Largo said:
I thought about that, but wouldn't that be too obvious?
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It would, indeed, be far too obvious. You need to start by working out where these quotes appear or who says them - may require some teamwork - and then as you identify those the answer may become clear.

A hint: "Narnia and the North!" could have been a clue in this question too.

#3.
(a) Frank
(b) Edmund
(c) Cor
(d) Caspian

This one is c. Cor is the only non-Narnian king.

#5.
(a) Aslan
(b) One of Lord Bar’s knights
(c) Bree
(d) Reepicheep

Reep was the only one not in H&HB
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Again, far too obvious. Remember, the clues I select are intended to be quite specific. If they were 'Narnian kings' or 'Characters in HHB' there would be loads of other characters that I could have substituted in.

With #3, I could have replaced the odd-one-out with Rilian, but none of the others could have been substituted. The three that are not odd are the only three characters in the entire series to whom this connection applies.

With #5, start by identifying everything we know about Lord Bar's knight; then a connection with the others may emerge.

Peeps
 
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Zella said:
My guess is d, because they were all kings, but Caspian was the only one who grew up knowing he would be a king.
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That sounds plausible, except that Peeps said Rilian could have been substituted for the odd one out. Maybe it has something to do with going to other worlds?

Or maybe it has to do with their encounter with talking beasts when they first encountered true Narnia? Whereas Rilian encountered a sorceress-serpent when he left Narnia and Cor encountered a talking horse before he went to Narnia?

Thanks for starting this fun brain-teasing thread, Peeps!
 
I like the guesses - they have some merit, although none of them are what I intended. Zella's suggestion is certainly true, but would be too general for my taste. In a way, though, it's not that far from the correct answer, but the answer I have in mind has to do with something they all said or believed.

Benisse's idea about going to other worlds could be a good solution too, although of course Peter could have been in the list too and I already said that the three not odd ones are (I'm pretty sure) the only three in the series I could have chosen, and the odd one could only be replaced by Rilian, I think. On the talking beasts, Edmund didn't meet a talking beast, but I like the thinking.

Peeps
 
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#2.
(a) “Ours is a high and lonely destiny.”
(b) Once there were four children whose names were Peter, Susan, Edmund and Lucy.
(c) “You will find writing on a stone in that ruined city, and you must do what the writing tells you.”
(d) “He’s not a tame lion.”

The obvious one would be b) as it is the only piece of non0-dialogue in those choices.

Another one is a) as it is the only one of the four that is not talking about any of the protagonists. Jadis is referring to herself and other kings and queens of Charn who look down on the commoners.

MrBob
 
Largo said:
I thought about that, but wouldn't that be too obvious?
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I think #3 is Cor, who is the only King NOT directly crowned by Aslan? However that has nothing to do with what they said or believed, but I can't think of anything else.:confused:

No wait... they all said or believed they were not ready to be Kings except..... Edmund?
 
BarbarianKing said:
No wait... they all said or believed they were not ready to be Kings except..... Edmund?
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Correct. Frank, Cor and Caspian felt that they should not be kings when this was in fact their role. Edmund wanted to be a king when he was not ready and would not have made the right sort of king.

Peeps
 
MrBob said:
#2.
(a) “Ours is a high and lonely destiny.”
(b) Once there were four children whose names were Peter, Susan, Edmund and Lucy.
(c) “You will find writing on a stone in that ruined city, and you must do what the writing tells you.”
(d) “He’s not a tame lion.”

The obvious one would be b) as it is the only piece of non0-dialogue in those choices.

Another one is a) as it is the only one of the four that is not talking about any of the protagonists. Jadis is referring to herself and other kings and queens of Charn who look down on the commoners.

MrBob
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You are closer in your approach with the first attempt, in that it is something to do with the writing of the books rather than with the story itself, but you haven't got the correct answer.

I could have included "Narnia and the North" as a clue - in fact, with hindsight, that would have been a better clue to include than one of the ones that I did include, for reasons that will become obvious once you've solved it.

I could also have included "I object to that remark very strongly" and "I'm game if you are", though I don't like those so much, again for reasons that may become clear later.

Peeps
 
No wait... they all said or believed they were not ready to be Kings except..... Edmund?[/QUOTE]

I thought something quite like that, (That Edmund was the only one that wanted to be king) but this makes more sense :)

But Peter also didn't think he could be king but he was in fact a good king? and i guess when you said rilian you mean when he was under the influence of the witch when he said he should conquer narnia, but he wasn't a good king during the inchantment?
 
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Peepiceek said:
You are closer in your approach with the first attempt, in that it is something to do with the writing of the books rather than with the story itself, but you haven't got the correct answer.

I could have included "Narnia and the North" as a clue - in fact, with hindsight, that would have been a better clue to include than one of the ones that I did include, for reasons that will become obvious once you've solved it.

I could also have included "I object to that remark very strongly" and "I'm game if you are", though I don't like those so much, again for reasons that may become clear later.

Peeps
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You mean it has some connection to lewis maybe? because of the writings? :O
 
Trufflehunterthebadger said:
But Peter also didn't think he could be king but he was in fact a good king? and i guess when you said rilian you mean when he was under the influence of the witch when he said he should conquer narnia, but he wasn't a good king during the inchantment?
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I don't think Peter said he shouldn't be king. They put this in the film, but it's not in the book. Yes - I had in mind Rilian when he was under the enchantment. I guess you could also have framed an answer along the lines that Edmund and Rilian were both the rightful king but didn't realise this and were manipulated into wanting to be king by illegitimate means and to rule in a bad way. I guess that's where you were going with saying they were under the control of witches.

Peeps
 
To give a bit more help on the unsolved clues, I'm going to give some chapter references to look up.

#4.
(a) A banquet that surpassed those of Peter’s court at Cair Paravel (VDT ch 13)
(b) Some rich brown loam (PC ch 15)
(c) A fine meal after the Calormene fashion (HHB ch 5)
(d) Some cold venison (TSC ch 9)

#5.
(a) Aslan (LWW ch 14)
(b) One of Lord Bar’s knights (HHB ch 14)
(c) Bree (HHB ch 10)
(d) Reepicheep (VDT ch 14-16)

#6.
(a) "We must join King Caspian at once." (PC ch 8)
(b) "I wish to goodness we'd never come." (TSC ch 3)
(c) "Oh, if only I had never left Cair Paravel." (HHB ch 5)
(d) "We've simply got to get off this island." (PC ch 3)

#7.
(a) A cab-horse (TMN ch 12)
(b) A mountain with two peaks (HHB ch 15)
(c) A rose bush (PC ch 14)
(d) A golden statue (VDT ch 8)

#8.
(a) Duffle, Rogin and Bricklethumb (HHB ch 12)
(b) Trumpkin (PC ch 3 & 5)
(c) The Seven Brothers of Shuddering Wood (PC ch 6)
(d) Griffle (TLB ch 7)

Hopefully those might become clearer now!

Peeps
 
Peepiceek said:
I don't think Peter said he shouldn't be king. They put this in the film, but it's not in the book. Yes - I had in mind Rilian when he was under the enchantment. I guess you could also have framed an answer along the lines that Edmund and Rilian were both the rightful king but didn't realise this and were manipulated into wanting to be king by illegitimate means and to rule in a bad way. I guess that's where you were going with saying they were under the control of witches.

Peeps
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yeah, maybe he never says that in the book. I felt that the connection between Rilian and Edmund, where as you say the witches. Funny Quiz by the way :)
 
Trufflehunterthebadger said:
Funny Quiz by the way :)
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I'm glad you're enjoying it. I always enjoy a bit of an intellectual challenge, and putting these questions together has made me think hard about the books, the stories, and the characters within them. I also really enjoy finding connections and also spotting differences, and learning from the significance of them. That's why the connection of the odd-one-out in my questions is just as important as the connections of the other three, because seeing how people in similar situations do different things offers an opportunity to learn from both good and bad examples. So, as well as spending time puzzling out the answers to these questions, it's also worth learning from the signigicance of them too.

For example, the theme of kingship in the question most recently solved is really important in the Chronicles. What is it to be a good king and what is it to be a bad king? One of the marks of good kings has been that they didn't feel worthy to be kings; those who wanted and felt worthy of power were the least suitable people for it. A lesson for life, I think, particularly those who hope to take on leadership roles.

Or take the question about people gaining / losing the ability to speak - notice what things lead people to lose that ability. Defiance, treachery and dishonourability in the case of Rabadash; deception, pride and narcissism in the case of Ginger; simple carelessness and lack of discernment in the case of the Lapsed Bear. These are the things Lewis would warn us against. By contrast, what positive act brought about the Talking Mice? A simple, barely noticable act of service and devotion - one that Susan initially misunderstood and tried to shoo the mice away, and one that certainly seemed purposeless. Nevertheless, Aslan honoured this small, insignificant act.

So the connections and differences are worth thinking about, as well as simply trying to solve the questions for their own sake. If you like, try making some questions up of your own and posting them here. That way you really have to think about the connections as you make up the questions.

Peeps
 
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