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Prince Caspian suffered a 60% fall off in its second week---despite a long memorial day weekend in the US. It is unlikely that it will now turn a profit given its 200 + million dollar budget. By contrast, The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe increased in popularity after its opening. Box office mojo writes:

" The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian melted an alarming 59 percent over the proper three-day weekend period, a steeper drop than The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe after a smaller start. The fantasy sequel grossed $29.8 million over the long weekend for $97.9 million in 11 days, while Lion had $117.8 million at the same point. " http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2499&p=.htm

I don't think its unreasonable to think that Disney pulls the plug on the franchise, especially if the third movie is not successful.

Prince Caspian suffers from poor editing and an uninspired and unappealing performance from the actor playing the title character.
 
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Caspian'sQueen said:
Prince Caspian suffered a 60% fall off in its second week---despite a long memorial day weekend in the US. It is unlikely that it will now turn a profit given its 200 + million dollar budget. By contrast, The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe increased in popularity after its opening. Box office mojo writes:

" The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian melted an alarming 59 percent over the proper three-day weekend period, a steeper drop than The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe after a smaller start. The fantasy sequel grossed $29.8 million over the long weekend for $97.9 million in 11 days, while Lion had $117.8 million at the same point. " http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2499&p=.htm

I don't think its unreasonable to think that Disney pulls the plug on the franchise, especially if the third movie is not successful.

Prince Caspian suffers from poor editing and an uninspired and unappealing performance from the actor playing the title character.
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the lion made most of its money over seas so it will say nothing till it is over seas


So far Worldwide: $150,889,537
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=narnia2.htm
 
Of course LWW had higher returns its the best in the series.

Let's be fair. Caspian the book suffers from sequelitis. Lots of people regard it as one of the worst in the franchise. And the movie isn't doing up to the first's standards but that doesn't mean it's doing badly. The notion that the plug will be pulled is hyperbole. Disney knows it released to a hostile market as well.
 
Oh,no!Thats terrible.:(:(:(:(
I hope it does better overseas.....It was so good....
Is there any word on VOTD..I mean,are they still planning to make it?*hopes*Its my favorite book.
 
Just because a movie doesn't do well in the States doesn't mean it won't do well over seas.
 
I hope they don't pull the plug. I mean, it stinks that the numbers dropped so dramatically, but people still liked it. And if they didn't continue/finish the series then they'd probably suffer more.
 
Obviously they're still going to go ahead with VDT but if that one doesn't do as well as the first then I think it's fair to say that it'll be a while until we see another movie from the franchise.

I read that Prince Caspian must make around 500+ million in revenues in order for Disney to make back what they spent on the movie, including marketing.
 
I think it a bit simplistic to assign the blame to poor editing and an unappealing title character. I thought Ben Barnes was a good Caspian and played well the role he was assigned - it's just that the role he was assigned wasn't the role found in the classic book.

If Walden wants to continue making the books into movies, I hope they will catch on that their most dedicated base and biggest potential market is fans of Narnia, people who grew up on the books, who number in the millions. If they respect the stories (as Lion did), they can expect enthusiastic support. If they vary from the stories and think their screenwriters can do a better job than C.S. Lewis, then they can expect people to abandon them.

Take me, for example. I must've seen Lion five times in the theater, and bought the DVD the first weekend it was out. I've only seen Caspian twice, don't intend to see it again, and may purchase the DVD - though if I do, I'll probably wait for a used copy from Blockbuster. Multiply me by a few million people, and you explain the "meltdown".
 
QA48 said:
Obviously they're still going to go ahead with VDT but if that one doesn't do as well as the first then I think it's fair to say that it'll be a while until we see another movie from the franchise.

I read that Prince Caspian must make around 500+ million in revenues in order for Disney to make back what they spent on the movie, including marketing.
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So far Worldwide: $150,889,537
Production Budget: $200 million

almost made back what it they spent!

I have been studying the Box office, Titanic made their first weekend what Narnia made 2nd weekend, what matter is how long it stays in the theaters for, Titanic did not do good a first but now we all know how well that move did, it made only 500 million in the states and over 1 Billion over seas.

LWW made 300M in the USA and PC has made almost 100M already. over seas is what makes or brakes movies

60% of what they made was over seas. and PC has been out for 2 weeks and made 1/3 of what Narnia made in 22.

so on average movies make 2/3 of their money over seas, if this holds true PC will make 300M if it stopped showing in the USA and only showed it over seas

I see PC making 500M lowest
 
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Honestly I think the big punch to Narnia's gut was Indiana Jones the next week. Indy's had one of the biggest openings ever. There's tons of parents out there who remember vividly the first trilogy. I mean heck, even the final Rocky and Rambo movies did well, and those petered out as series. Indy went out strong. So one thing to consider as well is that America's dollar is weak right now, our economy just isnt strong. With less cash to spend Indy's soaking up the dollars.
 
QA48 said:
Obviously they're still going to go ahead with VDT but if that one doesn't do as well as the first then I think it's fair to say that it'll be a while until we see another movie from the franchise.
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*sighs* Well,at least thats good they're making VOTD...:eek:
If I had more money I'd go see PC over and over in theatres,but just too expensive...I need to save for the DVD.:D
 
Daishi said:
Honestly I think the big punch to Narnia's gut was Indiana Jones the next week. Indy's had one of the biggest openings ever. There's tons of parents out there who remember vividly the first trilogy. I mean heck, even the final Rocky and Rambo movies did well, and those petered out as series. Indy went out strong. So one thing to consider as well is that America's dollar is weak right now, our economy just isnt strong. With less cash to spend Indy's soaking up the dollars.
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That makes sense. They can't expect Narnia to stay afloat when it's been hit with Indiana Jones.:rolleyes:
I'm sure it'll be fine. I know people who have yet to see it. And by golly they will see it. :p
 
PrinceOfTheWest said:
If they vary from the stories and think their screenwriters can do a better job than C.S. Lewis, then they can expect people to abandon them.
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Exactly! I was appalled when I read one of the producers (or perhaps it was Adamson) said that they tried to make the most out of a poor story. With PC it is evident that they didn't respect the story as a whole and therefore they felt that it gave them a right to take liberties with the story. Disrespectful to Lewis and the millions of fans who appreciate the book as it is.


Edit: Actually it was Douglass Gresham who said the quote above.
 
Daishi said:
Honestly I think the big punch to Narnia's gut was Indiana Jones the next week. Indy's had one of the biggest openings ever. There's tons of parents out there who remember vividly the first trilogy. I mean heck, even the final Rocky and Rambo movies did well, and those petered out as series. Indy went out strong. So one thing to consider as well is that America's dollar is weak right now, our economy just isnt strong. With less cash to spend Indy's soaking up the dollars.
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i totally agree. PC should have been released last year during the Christmas season. it was a mistake for them to push it back, especially during the summer when there is alot of competition (Indiana Jones, Iron Man...) i'm positive that PC will do well overseas, but the numbers in the U.S thus far is a bit disappointing considering that LWW did soo much better. then again, LWW was released during the Christmas season.
 
QA48 said:
Exactly! I was appalled when I read one of the producers (or perhaps it was Adamson) said that they tried to make the most out of a poor story. With PC it is evident that they didn't respect the story as a whole and therefore they felt that it gave them a right to take liberties with the story. Disrespectful to Lewis and the millions of fans who appreciate the book as it is.


Edit: Actually it was Douglass Gresham who said the quote above.
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EXCUSE ME?!?!?!:mad: THEY SAID WHAT NOW?!
OH, well those poor people, I wish they had a good story to pull from. (sarcasm)
*explodes* Just hearing that makes me want to protest or something. Maybe I won't see Narnia again.>.< That's just insulting to C.S. Lewis. I loved that book. *pouts*
 
I wouldn't call the it a 'poor story', however when you compare any of the later books to LWW, they just don't come close.

VoTD is my favorite book, however, I still say LWW was the best out of all of them. Great books make great movies, while only good books make good movies.

Everyone is too busy looking at the negative of PC, I see this movie as a great chance to show people that Lewis wrote more then just LWW, that there was actually more to the story.

People are always telling me that they didn't even know there were books after LWW, so now because of these movies, people will know. And hopefully, they will read them.
 
Spare Oomian said:
EXCUSE ME?!?!?!:mad: THEY SAID WHAT NOW?!
OH, well those poor people, I wish they had a good story to pull from. (sarcasm)
*explodes* Just hearing that makes me want to protest or something. Maybe I won't see Narnia again.>.< That's just insulting to C.S. Lewis. I loved that book. *pouts*
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Douglas Gresham is Lewis' stepson and the holder of the estate.

And I'm glad I wasn't wrong when I said the story suffers from sequelitis.
 
I've seen it twice now, opening weekend and Memorial Day; I believe we plan on seeing it again. My mother (and father as well) said she could go see PC all summer long and not get tired of it. I soundly agree with her! :D I seem to be one of the few on TDL who thinks they did a fantastic job with PC. Certainly some changes were made; many of which I think were for the BETTER.
Yes, there were a few that I mourn, mostly things, though, that were left out. Like all the Trees/Animals dancing sequences with Aslan, etc. Bacchus and his Maenads, etc. But I do understand why - including them could have been seen as too "weird" or "pagan" or something, and turned some of the more extreme fundamentalist Christians or something off of the series. Who knows, I guess. o_O

I think PC should have been released in the Fall/Winter. Fantasy films almost always do better then. But I think we can count on high international earnings to have it do well.
Perhaps we should start a massive prayer "chain" or something that PC will do AMAZING so that at least to SC, possibly HHB, will be secure in being made. :D
 
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