Where They Messed Up

So there are. And I'm sure most folks involved HADN'T read the complete Chronicles. Maybe we should be thankful that they didn't stick a motorcycle chase into the movie.

Or a gun fight, lol.

Seriously, it always mystifies me when they try to turn a popular book or series into a movie(s), and they choose to sign onto the project as many people as possible who haven't read the book or series in question to attempt to make a product that will apparently alienate as many fans of the original story as possible. I mean, you'd think they would have realized by now that a popular story is good enough that it probably doesn't need to undergo a ton of "modifications" to make it more marketable. Just change the book into a movie. Don't change the whole story and slap the same name on it...We aren't fooled and we are not amused.
 
Or a gun fight, lol.

Seriously, it always mystifies me when they try to turn a popular book or series into a movie(s), and they choose to sign onto the project as many people as possible who haven't read the book or series in question to attempt to make a product that will apparently alienate as many fans of the original story as possible. I mean, you'd think they would have realized by now that a popular story is good enough that it probably doesn't need to undergo a ton of "modifications" to make it more marketable. Just change the book into a movie. Don't change the whole story and slap the same name on it...We aren't fooled and we are not amused.


*Stands up and applauds*
 
Well, anyone who keeps up with stories coming out of Hollywood has noticed they are a wee bit lacking in the creativity department. It seems like all I ever see anymore is one show trying to copy/outdo another. I watch very little tv anymore, but I'm here to tell you that those programs that are creative and clean will be the ones people want to watch. There comes a time when folks get fed up with all the....um...doodoo that is being dished out, and it's refreshing to see something wholesome. Now is a great time for those who are Christians in the entertainment industry to use their gifts, which are given by God.
 
I was fine with Mr Beaver. I loved how he and his wife were so loving with each other. There have been quite a few loving, but arguing couples in cinema. This was one of the better ones. His surprise that the siblings hadn't heard of Aslan or the prophesy is also fine. When you imagine a group of people who are destined to rule, you don't expect them to be so ignorant of the world.

" It is as if a real Aslan/Christ is so far-fetched and unbelievable that we have to somehow dumb Him down so the rest of us unbelievers can understand it. Aslan acting somewhat puzzled and asking how this could happen, when He hears the news of Edmund's betrayal."

Firefly, Aslan questioning them is similar to the questioning of Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden. It wasn't about a need to know, but a need of them to confess.

"The movie, accordingly, leaves the uninformed viewer thinking that the four Pevensies GREW TO ADULTHOOD without ever seeing EVEN ONE other human being anyplace in the Narnian world."

Copper, this would be hard to portray in the movie. There are noi humans apart from the Pevensies even mentioned, which was a plot point. It would have been weird to have humans at the end when in the beginning, Tumnus didn't know that Lucy was a human and was so surprised that she was.

I can't think of any way to add humans to the movie without it seeming odd.

As for the fan-fics, I still love to imagine Lucy having gotten married and gone back to the real world with her young daughter. Let the confusion and hilarity ensue.

MrBob
 
I haven't watched the movie in a long time, but my love for it hasn't diminished. It was SO well done. It's hard for me to think of many things that fell short of amazing.

I guess Mr. Beaver's attitude was a little strange. Putting myself in the Pevensies' position, it would be very frustrating (not to mention totally bizarre) to witness his outrage at them not knowing about the prophecy. But I think the function of his disbelief was to highlight Aslan's majesty. The heightened drama helps the audience to better understand what's going on.

Did anyone else feel like the film's pacing was a bit off? Some plot events happened much more quickly than I would have anticipated. I think they could have made the coming of Spring a more gradual change, for example. Other parts felt a bit dragged out, like the Battle, if I'm remembering correctly.

I feel like all the "mistakes" in this movie are too minuscule to get upset over. I usually have several complaints about even my favorite films... but this one is really special. It's one of the best book-to-movie adaptions I've seen.
 
Well, anyone who keeps up with stories coming out of Hollywood has noticed they are a wee bit lacking in the creativity department. It seems like all I ever see anymore is one show trying to copy/outdo another. I watch very little tv anymore, but I'm here to tell you that those programs that are creative and clean will be the ones people want to watch. There comes a time when folks get fed up with all the....um...doodoo that is being dished out, and it's refreshing to see something wholesome. Now is a great time for those who are Christians in the entertainment industry to use their gifts, which are given by God.

Great post. I agree that a lot of the stories coming out of Hollywood seriously lack creativity. They are in the phase of just redoing old movies to "improve" them (often making them worse) and in the stage of stealing ideas from popular books which they do their best to ruin on the big screen. They don't want to come up with anything new, and, beyond most PG movies, there isn't much interest in clean entertainment. A lot of the times that I go to the movies, I end up seeing a "childish" movie because they are just less insulting to my intelligence and morals.

I hope that Christians in the entertainment industry will have a chance to use their God-given gifts. I fear that Hollywood doesn't want their talents to be shown:(
 
Many explicitly Christian movies have been a woeful disappointment to me. For instance, all the ones that place their characters in a wilderness setting for just two reasons: (1) for the scenery, and (2) in order to have SO FEW characters on screen that there CAN'T be any physical conflict, so that they won't have to address the issue of whether Christians are ever allowed to fight anybody.

Which brings me back to the Narnian stories, because they do portray the justified use of armed force. If only somebody would REALLY do it right.
 
Many explicitly Christian movies have been a woeful disappointment to me. For instance, all the ones that place their characters in a wilderness setting for just two reasons: (1) for the scenery, and (2) in order to have SO FEW characters on screen that there CAN'T be any physical conflict, so that they won't have to address the issue of whether Christians are ever allowed to fight anybody.

Which brings me back to the Narnian stories, because they do portray the justified use of armed force. If only somebody would REALLY do it right.

When Christian movies are done well, they are good; when done poorly, they are painful. There is very little middle ground.
 
*Dusts Off Account*

I think the "Oh Johnny" song was appropriate because it was probably a song you would have heard during the time period. My first exposure to Narnia was the animated version made for the children's television workshop. I had the VHS for so long then luckily I saw the DVD at walmart for $5. I was so happy to get that. Then, I saw the version with Georgie Henley, etc. I then started to read the books and every time I do I am absorbing everything and get so deep into reading that I block out everything else around me. If someone is calling me I can't hear them. That's happened before actually. I guess to me it depends on what kind of person you are: a fan of the books or a fan of the movies. Meaning, if you read the books first, then see the movies there's bound to be changes maybe some you like, some you don't. I'm personally a fan of both the movies and books. I'm just glad I've had the opportunity to read the entire book series so I have something to compare the the later movies to. Plus, the books tend to have more scenes that would make the movies probably about four hours or more.
 
That is a good point and reminder for us, Lucy Fan. It's good to be reminded that there are those who don't know the books as well who enjoy the movies and are blessed by them. As a Narnia lover and purist myself, I find it extremely easy (and unapologetically so) to pick apart things I see as unfaithful or derogatory towards stories that are so beloved to me. But I have to admit that God can still use these movies as they are to touch people, so that is good. :)
 
That is a good point and reminder for us, Lucy Fan. It's good to be reminded that there are those who don't know the books as well who enjoy the movies and are blessed by them. As a Narnia lover and purist myself, I find it extremely easy (and unapologetically so) to pick apart things I see as unfaithful or derogatory towards stories that are so beloved to me. But I have to admit that God can still use these movies as they are to touch people, so that is good. :)

I was a teenager when "Jesus Christ, Superstar" first came out. I did not yet know Our Lord. Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice wrote that show with the express and calculated intention of DENYING Christ's divinity, indeed making him LESS admirable even than many MORTALS. But no thanks to them, the dramatic nature of the opera encouraged me to read the Bible. God used it for good -- though this does not excuse the mockers of truth who wrote it.
 
Or a gun fight, lol.

Seriously, it always mystifies me when they try to turn a popular book or series into a movie(s), and they choose to sign onto the project as many people as possible who haven't read the book or series in question to attempt to make a product that will apparently alienate as many fans of the original story as possible. I mean, you'd think they would have realized by now that a popular story is good enough that it probably doesn't need to undergo a ton of "modifications" to make it more marketable. Just change the book into a movie. Don't change the whole story and slap the same name on it...We aren't fooled and we are not amused.

So true! Same goes to Broadway shows. When I went to NYC, I watched this Broadway show called "Peter and the Starcathers", which is basically a prequel to Peter Pan. I have also read the book to that movie, and there are some parts were it was changed.
 
They get ahead because they create an ILLUSION of progress, and people don't pay enough attention to notice the difference. If you read the Perelandra Trilogy, a.k.a. the Space Trilogy, you'll see in the third volume how the villains likewise create an illusion of progress.
 
They get ahead because they create an ILLUSION of progress, and people don't pay enough attention to notice the difference. If you read the Perelandra Trilogy, a.k.a. the Space Trilogy, you'll see in the third volume how the villains likewise create an illusion of progress.

A very true insight. I do have to get my hands on the Space Trilogy.
 
Did you ever read H.G. Wells' "War of the Worlds"? If you read it _before_ the Space Trilogy, you'll get an idea of what kind of thinking Mr. Lewis was _opposing_ in his books.
 
Did you ever read H.G. Wells' "War of the Worlds"? If you read it _before_ the Space Trilogy, you'll get an idea of what kind of thinking Mr. Lewis was _opposing_ in his books.

I read "War of the Worlds" several years ago, and I remember not liking it very much, though I've forgotten most of the details. I should give it a re-read and then go through Lewis' Space Trilogy. Perhaps over winter break, since it sounds like a long reading assignment:D
 
For a more complete understanding of what Lewis was counteracting, you should also read Wells' "First Men in the Moon" and "The Island of Doctor Moreau."
 
I've probably mentioned this before at some point but I just can't help repeating it again.

I was fine with the LWW film up until their meeting with Father Christmas. Some may have objected to the softening down of Lewis's apparently hard line stance against girls fighting but this did not bother me. No, what angered me was the explanation for why Father Christmas had finally arrived. In the book he says 'Aslan is on the move. The witch's magic is weakening.' But in the film this becomes 'The hope your majesties has brought is weakening the witch's power.'

In one breaking the witch's power, symbolically breaking the power of sin is the result of Divine intervention, in the other the result of human action. This is in fact the Narnian equivalent of Pelagianism.

It's not surprising the film went downhill from there.
 
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