Tirian of Narnia
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I love all the starwars movies but the one I enjoy the least is a new hope. That's not to say it's not great.
I hate to revive a years old thread, but:
The Star Wars Holiday Special.
Agreed! It is so bad that all everyone who worked on it hates it. Words do not describe how bad this one is.
The only redeeming factor is the short cartoon that introduced the world to Boba Fett, but that's it.
Though as I say this I must admit I want my own copy,... mainly to pop into the DVD player when guests are overstaying their welcome at a Christmas party. If that doesn't get them to leave nothing will.
Ironically it got very high ratings, and the money it brought in was the only reason they could finance ANY of the subsequent films. Think of it as a necessary evil, and HAPPY LIFE DAY space fans!
I love that actor named Hayden who played Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, but I think that was the worst movie. That was the one where Ani turned into Darth Vader, right? It was very lame. It was like he was just looking for a reason to be evil, oh, anything will do ... They did not let Darth's character develop very naturally. Lame.
I never saw a Star Wars Holiday Special! Who knew?
... even the scene with Obi-Wan and Anakin dueling, though heartbreaking, was a good scene.Obi-Wan: Oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics. I have to report to the Council; besides someone needs to be the poster boy...let us not forget Anakin that you rescued me from the buzz droids. And you killed Count Dooku, and you rescued the Chancellor carrying me unconscious on your back.. Anakin, let's be fair. Today you were the hero and you deserve your glorious day with the politicians.
Anakin Skywalker: All right. But you owe me one, and for not saving your skin for the tenth time.
Obi-Wan: *Ninth* time. That business on Cato Neimodia doesn't- doesn't count.
I think that The Attack of the Clones was the worst Star Wars Movie.. Why?
Well.... Anakins character ruined the whole movie. The actor was not very good, and he was so creepy, stalkerish, and unjedi-like with Padme that, while there are parts I enjoy greatly, I disliked any scene with Anakin in it. (except for one or two scenes)
I think thats it for the worst Star Wars movie. My favorite of the 'New three" is the Third one, The Revenge of the Sith. I thought the actor who played Anakin (dont know what his name is) was best in this one, though still not the best actor they could have gotten for Anakin.
The scene at the beginning was pretty funny, with the buzz droids and Anakin flying a crashing ship, Obi-Wan's whole dialogue after that ... even the scene with Obi-Wan and Anakin dueling, though heartbreaking, was a good scene.
But the old ones are the best, by far.
Which I think rather reinforces my original point.They had to make Anakin so young because otherwise, his Jedi training would have been extremely implausible. Remember, Yoda said that even at age 9, Anakin was too old to begin the training. So there would have been no point in making Anakin any older in the movie because the Council DEFINITELY would not have allowed him to be trained.
Which I think rather reinforces my original point.
In the films as they stand, there dosn`t seem to be any overwhelming reason why Anakin can`t begin training since he dosn`t appear to be much older than the `younglings` in the next couple of films.
If he is about Lukes age then the reason becomes a lot more obvious.
The whole relationship between Amidala and Anakin seems to work better if they start out older as well.
As does Anakins ability as a pod racer and a number of other things.
Also his turning to the dark side becomes much more of a `fall from grace` if he is older and Darth Vader becomes much more a satanic figure rather than the `Darth Petulant` we see in episode 3.
Because the Order was comprised of many different species that matured at different rates, the rank of Initiate was not given at a certain age, but when an individual reached the maturity to begin formal education at the academy. While still in infancy, the Jedi fosterers that oversaw the care of the babies would foresee where an individual belonged and would organize the soon-to-be-Initiates into clans. These clans stayed together day and night, learning, eating, and sleeping together from around the age of three standard years until they were chosen as a Padawan around adolescence.
I don`t see how making the characters about ten years older in the first trilogy really makes that much difference in the films overall plot, in fact as I`ve already said the story is, I think improved by assuming they are older.And yes, Lucas could have made Anakin older at the time of Episode 3, but he was already working within a set time limit. The years set within the original trilogy pretty much dictated how the first three were laid out.
I rather find Yoda`s position on Anakin rather baffling, if he has had some sort of premonition of what is going to happen why refuse him training in the force?
The Jedi obviously know that `He has a destiny` and is already very stong in the force so surely not teaching him anything and sending him away untrained is surely even more dangerous than just making him a Padawan.
If he`s older though, I don`t think they have much of a choice.
You`re Wookiepedia quote is interesting and its a clear indication of how the Jedi temple worked.
However, if we`re going to extend the discussion beyond the films and go in to `expanded universe` territory then I would point out that this is just one indication that, in the time-period the films are set the Jedi Order had got too ascetic and monastic for its own good.
At other points in time Jedi DID marry and have children, Andur and Nomi Sunrider for example.
And, in the post `Return` period, Luke and Mara Jade.
As for Revenge, I am not fond of movies where one of the main, previously good characters becomes a dark, depressing, genocidal lunatic who would willingly kill women and children. I also cannot for the life of me understand, with the years of experience that Yoda, et al. had they could not sense the turmoil that was going on in Anakin soon enough to protect the younglings from him and protect themselves as well. The plot makes no sense to me and I am wondering how Leia has memories of her mother if she died so soon after her birth.
I agree completely. That's why Revenge is my least favorite, it was as if they rushed to condense all this into the plot without giving us an explanation of why Anakin turned bad and why no one noticed he was on the brink of turning bad. The script and plot just seemed thrown together.Lava said:As for Revenge, I am not fond of movies where one of the main, previously good characters becomes a dark, depressing, genocidal lunatic who would willingly kill women and children. I also cannot for the life of me understand, with the years of experience that Yoda, et al. had they could not sense the turmoil that was going on in Anakin soon enough to protect the younglings from him and protect themselves as well. The plot makes no sense to me ...