Copperfox

I'm catching up.
It's really good so far. I'll let you know more when I get farther.

hello copperfox, you're welcome for me posting how are you doing? i had such a good day today, it was my birthday today, thanks for your prayers my dad's back still in pain, have the best week ever

I believe the verses I mentioned (and others) do say that it is when we are baptized that God saves us. As for only the absence of belief that leads to being lost, well, if there is belief there will certainly be no baptism!

No, I don't think God is going to say it counts for nothing because he died before he got wet, but because he wasn't obedient.

Good idea. I'll do it right now.

Haha, no way. I never thought about it like that.

hello copperfox, how are you doing? i'm good, short work day today, please pray for my dad he threw his back last weekend while trying to set up one of our big ticket items for a customer he has to go see his doctor tomarrow, have the best week ever

First let me say that I am not at all trying to discount faith; without it baptism would be no more helpful than being dunked in the pool. Nor am I trying to be disrespectful, and if anything sounds that way, I apologize in advance. That being said...

If the conversion of the Philippian jailer were the only example of or teaching on salvation we had, I would agree with you. But it's not so we have to take the whole of the Bible, not just that one thing. There are so many verses that connect baptism with salvation, like the one I already mentioned (which I have never heard anyone give a defense for without basically ignoring it) or 1 Peter 3:21. "There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." What about Paul? He prayed for three days in Damascus and if anyone could have been saved by just faith (or prayer, as some say) it would have been him. But still Ananias said to him, "And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." (Acts 22:16)

Yes, people were baptized before Jesus' death, but the reasons were different.

I know the action can become isolated from the faith, but that doesn't mean it should be. And baptism doesn't mean that you can later live selfishly and still go to Heaven.

"What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, 'Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,' but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
"But someone will say, 'You have faith, and I have works.' Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, 'Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.' And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
"Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2:14-26 Faith is necessary. Works are equally so.

Thanks. It's hard coming back after being gone so long. So much has changed... both here and in the rest of the world.

Hey Joe..... aheem..... I ran into a road block already.... -headdesk-

heeeelp me....

I'm still on Chapter 25.

Awwww, sounds like a good plan getting BarbarianKing to see you! Haahaa. Thank you for being happy for me. It's good to "see" you.

hello copperfox, how are you doing? i'm good, ok i'll try & search for you on faebook hope you get better sleep tonight, i hope i do too

hello copperfox, ohh noo another case of can't sleep ehh, have you ever tried aromoatherapy for that of course if you're allgeric to some oils i don't recomend all of them, yeach i couldn't sleep either, i think i had too much tea have a Happy Labor Day

hello copperfox, how are you doing? i'm good, how's your week been? i just got off work had a short day today, i'm sure you'll try the church out when you can, yesturday i signed up for facebook first time stepping out of my comfort zone but i don't know if it's even worth it, have you ever tried facebook?

Hey Joe! That is awesome! I have been at such a farm myself when I were still in school. We were even allowed to make the cheese and it was a fun experience. They still do it by hand over here.

I have prayed for that for a very long time. I did know someone that died on September 11th. I have always been a bit sensitive on that day.

Yes, things seem to be going INCREASINGLY downhill in this country.Prayer would not be amiss. I underdstand the dabate about the mosque still continues, but is not looking well. I hope my family doesn't decide to erect a statue of the man who murdered me over MY grave...

The Muslims are not going to back out of this Mosque, I'm sorry, I mean "Islamic YMCA". It's simply not going to happen. Plus we can't restrict their right to use private property as seen fit. You can use Eminent Domain, but that's tricky. However, I'm fully supportive of the Islamic "Happy" Bar that is desired to be built directly next door xD

AMEN!!!! I can't believe anybody is seriously thinking about putting a mosque on ground zero. It's Insanely scary.

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