Aslan looks AWFUL!

Sorry guys, I didn't want it to sound like I was preaching at ya. ;) It just seems that this thread is turning into a big argument, that's all. But I hope to be around here more in the future...I've been registered for awhile, though.

Anyway, thanks for the welcome! I personally like debating, so it looks as if I will enjoy myself on this forum. :D
 
PrincessRosario said:
I hope to be around here more in the future...I've been registered for awhile, though.
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You are always welcome, Princess Ro! And if the sniping gets too much, go ahead and tell everyone to shut up. We need it sometimes.
 
Happy To Be Here

This is my first post... and my first day registered. I am SO excited to find this site.

Now, as to the CGI and Aslan... as well as Disneyfication...

Remember that when big names with big movies behind them are involved in the making of the movie... studios tend to back off. The success of Shrek and Shrek II with Andrew Adamson and the Success of LOTR (I have heard the head sfx person is heading up LW&W) forms a team that I would think most studios would give broad authority to.

Not to mention, C.S. Lewis's stepson is apart of it (yes, I know this has been mentioned :) ) and will keep the story on the right track. So all in all... I think it is going to be an excellent movie.

And about Aslan... Yes He is awesome and terrible, but also provokes feelings of love and cute. He is all, and SHOULD stir all those feelings.

In the end, as long as the themes of betrayal, redemption, sacrifice, and absolute good verses absolute evil are in the movie... I consider it a great success, especially out of hollywood.
 
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Welcome and well said

Welcome, Meraby! So glad to see you here!

I TOTALLY agree with the points in your post -- and I think it is especially noteworthy that Douglas Gresham is involved. I don't think he would put his name on any film that wasn't true to the spirit of CON.

It is very exciting that the movie is just a few months away!
 
*bounces off wall with princess*

Me too! I can't wait 'til dec. 9. I hope I'll be able to wait in line for days on end before the movie opens :D
 
meraby said:
This is my first post... and my first day registered. I am SO excited to find this site.

Now, as to the CGI and Aslan... as well as Disneyfication...

>snip<

And about Aslan... Yes He is awesome and terrible, but also provokes feelings of love and cute. He is all, and SHOULD stir all those feelings.

In the end, as long as the themes of betrayal, redemption, sacrifice, and absolute good verses absolute evil are in the movie... I consider it a great success, especially out of hollywood.
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Well, as to the CGI Aslan, I'd certainly go along with the "terrible" part ;) - but love? Cute? Awesome? Don't think so. I guess my trouble is, I know what a real lion looks like because my brother-in-law was on the staff of the St. Louis Zoo, and I got to see lions VERY up close. And for the record, the only time a lion has yellow teeth is if he's old or sick. Ewwww!!!

Good grief, more Disney-bashing. Tell me, did you see "Beauty and the Beast", "Aladdin", or "The Lion King"? Did you think they were absolute trash or what? Just what is the fear I'm sensing around here based on? That maybe Disney might water down the Christian message in the story? I have a feeling that's it. Personally, I don't care beans about that. I'd just like to see Narnia brought to life full of the magic and wonder Lewis created. Thankfully he used a light hand on the Christian allegory - except for the last book - and hopefully the film will too. But if it does - I wonder, will Disney get blamed or praised for that?
 
judyfromkansas said:
And for the record, the only time a lion has yellow teeth is if he's old or sick. Ewwww!!!
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Isn't Aslan at least 1000 years old in LWW? (MN it says WW hid for thousad years, but i may be mistaken :eek: )
 
Light Allegory?

I have heard this before, that C.S. Lewis used only "Light Allegory." Nothing can be further from the truth. LWW is the complete allegory of the need for man to be redeemed from his own treachery, and a savior's redemption. Aslan is the SON of the emporer over the sea, who dies and resurrects, making death work backwards etc. etc. (I will restrain from walking through all seven books pointing out the HEAVY ALLEGORY.

In a nut shell, yes I am worried about it losing its christian message. Not just for christianity's sake however. The LWW does not work without the theme of redemption and absolute good and evil. It is the central CORE of the book. and Disney bashing? No. Hokie Hollywood rewrites which destroy authorial intent and integrity of a story? Absolutely. It is true in all genres. For instance, "Lord of the Flies" was released, and because they removed the authorial intent, (which yes, was christian themes), the movie was simply flat. The same thing happened with the changing of the story in the last two books brought to movie from the Clancy series, "Clear and Present Danger" and "Sum of All Fears" (neither of which have ANY christian theme :D ).

In the end, books which are turned into movies can run two courses. 1. They can remain true to the books, and produce a great movie. or 2. They can re-write the story in thier own political or social or theological or (and most likely) lazy/economic way and destroy a great story. I usually expect hollywood to do the last. And usually because they want to turn a quick buck, before anything else. It is under that idea that I stated, if they leave teh themes, I will be happy!
 
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Well, I don't want it to be like a kids version of "The Passion" as some are saying, but I do want it to retain its Christian themes. I think it is the most powerful when it isn't shouted out at you, when it's more subtle but still obvious. There's a certain knack to doing it, but with Doug Gresham on the team I'm sure it'll be good. Have you read his latest interview? That quieted every fear I have about the production.

Here's the link: http://www.narniaweb.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3478&SCRN=0&PN=1
 
judyfromkansas said:
Well, as to the CGI Aslan, I'd certainly go along with the "terrible" part ;) - but love? Cute? Awesome? Don't think so. I guess my trouble is, I know what a real lion looks like because my brother-in-law was on the staff of the St. Louis Zoo, and I got to see lions VERY up close. And for the record, the only time a lion has yellow teeth is if he's old or sick. Ewwww!!!
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You're not the only one who has seen a real live lion. :rolleyes: I may not have connections to a zoo-keeper but I've seen them enough to know what they look like. And I still think Aslan looks pretty darn-tootin' good. I honestly don't know what people were expecting from the special-effects department but I never thought we'd be getting 100% photo-realism. But he seems like a character that can be interacted with and I would say the scene where he pounces he looks about 95% real. Just incredible stuff.

You're really trying to sound like the supreme authority on what are good special effects or what lions are supposed to look like--that those who like the effects don't know about good CG or what real lions look like. I think Aslan looks Awesome and I also think he looks adorable (he can be cute at times, just not when pouncing on evil witches ;) ). No, the CG Aslan that we've seen so far is not perfect, but he looks good for where our technology is currently at. And where are the yellow teeth comments coming from? :confused: Aslan doesn't have yellow teeth so why would I care about the dentures of a sick or old lion?

I DO agree with you that alot of the Disney-bashing is uncalled for. They might not have been on the top of their game the past couple of years but they have made ALOT of top-quality movies and other products. And they are a family-friendly company, creating entertainment people of all ages can enjoy.
 
Herbal Remedy said:
You're not the only one who has seen a real live lion. :rolleyes: I may not have connections to a zoo-keeper but I've seen them enough to know what they look like. And I still think Aslan looks pretty darn-tootin' good. I honestly don't know what people were expecting from the special-effects department but I never thought we'd be getting 100% photo-realism. But he seems like a character that can be interacted with and I would say the scene where he pounces he looks about 95% real. Just incredible stuff..
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Well, I guess I haven't been clear. I want Aslan to look like MORE than a "real" lion. He's the Lion, the Great Lion, and IMO he should look more magical and regal than a real lion does. My point is, the CGI lion I've seen in the trailers simply doesn't look very impressive. Or awe-inspiring. When he actually shows up, it's a letdown. JMHO.
 
I would have agreed with you until I saw him in the theatre the other day. I was never able to actually see his eyes on my little 12" screen. Hopefully they will have a Hi Def version available soon on Apple.Com.
 
I work with real lions. Yes, really. And Aslan is absolutely gorgeous and much bigger than the ones that roam the African Savanna. He's as real as it gets.
 
Specter said:
Judy: DISNEY is NOT making the movie.
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Well in all the previews why did it show the disney logo like all disney movies and the star going over the castle?? so that tells me disney was apart of it. So they did help make the movie. yeah other studios helped to but disney did help out.
 
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