Edmund the High King of Narnia?

Not to dis our new member but agreeing with someone else's statement doesn't make the statement true, or right. I wish people would post their own comments and opinions.
 
What happened to the fairness rule? This is a forum, and anyone is allowed to say whatever they want so long as they don't say something to hurt someone else. I think that, regardless of what simerlinfan's post contained, he/she is allowed to have and say their opinion. Saying that, "I agree with that" is no different, though it would be nice to hear an expanded post on it.
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
What happened to the fairness rule? This is a forum, and anyone is allowed to say whatever they want so long as they don't say something to hurt someone else. I think that, regardless of what simerlinfan's post contained, he/she is allowed to have and say their opinion. Saying that, "I agree with that" is no different, though it would be nice to hear an expanded post on it.
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At the end of your post you said the exact same thing I said. I am not telling people not to post whatever they want. I just wish they would express their own thoughts also.
 
"What happened to the fairness rule? This is a forum, and anyone is allowed to say whatever they want so long as they don't say something to hurt someone else. I think that, regardless of what simerlinfan's post contained, he/she is allowed to have and say their opinion. Saying that, "I agree with that" is no different, though it would be nice to hear an expanded post on it."

True that! :p

MrBob
 
I think he just called them High to differentiate them from the current king, Caspian. There is nothing to much to read into that to me.
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That's an interesting point, as Caspian isn't a prince at this point. I heard the line in the movie but never really thought much about it, save that it was odd that Caspian called them that. Oh well.

Or Caspian was thinking about Peter when he introduced Edmund and Lucy to the crew and accidentally called them High King/Queen :p

In the trailer didn't Caspian just call them "king and queen of Narnia"?
 
Maybe in the trailer they edited that part (to avoid controversy?), but in the movie Caspian clearly calls Edmund the High King. I saw the movie again this week. I know. I think that was wrong.
 
I think Caspian says that to show respect towards Edmund and Lucy. He is the king himself. But he puts them above himself, perhaps because they were king and queen in the Golden Age; before him.
He's showing humility, and I think that's all.
 
"He is the king himself. But he puts them above himself, perhaps because they were king and queen in the Golden Age; before him."

That and the fact they helped to put him on his throne, Liz. He had to show them respect. That begs the question: are all the Pevensies higher than other kings and queens? They were the only ones who could travel to and from Narnia. They were leaders in the two wars of inependence.

MrBob
 
MrBob said:
"He is the king himself. But he puts them above himself, perhaps because they were king and queen in the Golden Age; before him."

That and the fact they helped to put him on his throne, Liz. He had to show them respect. That begs the question: are all the Pevensies higher than other kings and queens? They were the only ones who could travel to and from Narnia. They were leaders in the two wars of inependence.

MrBob
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That's a really good point. :)
 
You're right, it's not a big thing.

I like the fight between Caspian and Edmund on Gold Island. The actors are really good there!!
 
It is a big deal, and it was wrong. It shows that the writers probably never even read the books. For them to not know that Edmund was not the high king is totally unreasonable. Either that or they did it on purpose to dis the fans.
 
oh well, after reading all of the posts here, I was just hoping that there would be someone that was there when the script was created and explain the reason why the writers named Edmund "High King" and Lucy as "High Queen"..
 
suelo said:
oh well, after reading all of the posts here, I was just hoping that there would be someone that was there when the script was created and explain the reason why the writers named Edmund "High King" and Lucy as "High Queen"..
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Nobody can because most people who think it's alright are saying it because that's the way they perceived it in the movie. Not me, I wasn't watching the movie with my emotions (yeah, I can be detached like that), at least not on the first viewing. I immediately caught that line and I knew from the very beginning that it was wrong. It shows a total lack of understanding what Narnia is about on the part of the writers.
 
See, I really don't think this is that out of line. The Pevensies would be the Golden Age kings and queens. The most notable along with Frank and Helen as being the Humans that were from a different world. They have a sort of distinction among all of the other narnian royalty. I think that Lewis may have refered to them all as high Kings and Queens in one spot but I haven't read the Chronicles in a while so I may be wrong. I know that Peter is The High King but they all had a special distinction.

EDIT: I find that I have more to say after re-reading some of the posts. It is wrong, I don't want anyone to think that I think calling Ed High King would be right. It is not a hereditary title. I would have been the first to join the outcry if it had been just Ed that he called High King. But including both Ed and Lucy makes it into a distinction about the nature of their role in Narnian history not removing Peter's title. I think it is high with a little "h" just like gods with a little "g" is totally different from the one true God with a Capital "G." Peter is THE HIGH KING and their reign collectively makes them high Kings and Queens. In looking at it this way it explains the "flub" that Gresham should have caught and fought against or the outright disregard for Lewis's text. I am going to try to see if I can find where I thought I saw the textual reference.
 
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I would like to post my opinion regarding with this...

I think that I would agree with some people who would disagree calling Ed and Lu High King and Queen of Narnia, but with some respect from King caspian I guess it'll be somewhat a humility from him to call them as "like that." But what my concern here is I guess the "high king" position is not passable to anyone who is next in line to the throne. As for what the Bible said Jesus to Peter ( To which Peter Pevensie is somewhat to be alike) He gave the keys of heaven and earth that if he forgive sins they will be forgiven in heaven and vice-versa. Peter is the only "high king" as being appointed by Aslan in Narnia. And as far as what I remember in the movie LWW, the reason why he was chosen is his first in their bloodline of Pevensies. In the Bible, we get to know that the first-born son shall be offered to God, so I think that what happens to Peter as a "high king." It is never passable to others since they will never be the first-born child. As for Caspian, he wanted to know the people of his time that there were Kings and Queens from the past and they are the reason why somewhat they are existing in Narnia. Because if ever the Telmarines are existing in the WW's time, I don't think they will live for a long time for they are in-hunting and forced to be killed. He is just showing some respect there. But still the writers must remember that every single detail that the book has. Especially with the ranks of the people involved in it. But then, let's just enjoy the movie and wait for the next one to be interpreted..:D
 
Whatever anyone thinks or wishes to believe, the fact is that the title of High King belongs to Peter alone. It was given to him by Aslan and it was his alone. No one can reference anything in the books that would make it ok to call Edmund a High King because the reference doesn't exist.
 
I'm interested in history. C. S. Lewis was from Ireland, as we know.
In the old days there where several kings in several places of the country, and then a High King in a place called Tara. The High King was above the other kings. During the years there were of course several High Kings.
I've always wondered, if this was be C. S. Lewis' inspiration for having a High King in Narnia. Does anyone know?

In the VDT film Caspian says: Edmund the Just and Lucy the Valiant, high king AND QUEEN of Narnia.
If only Edmund had been called high king, when I would object as well!
But there was no "High Queen" title. This makes it clear, to me at least, that Caspian isn't referring to the High King title, that Peter got. He's merely paying respect and placing Edmund AND LUCY above himself.
 
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In the VDT film Caspian says: Edmund the Just and Lucy the Valiant, high king AND QUEEN of Narnia.
If only Edmund had been called high king, when I would object as well!
But there was no "High Queen" title. This makes it clear, to me at least, that Caspian isn't referring to the High King title, that Peter got. He's merely paying respect and placing Edmund AND LUCY above himself.
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This paragraph is very confusing, I am not sure what you're saying in the first sentences. But I do get the last one and that's not it either.

If Caspian had intended for Lucy to be referred to as being above, he would have said High King and High Queen. There are two subjects in Caspian's sentence, one is Edmund the Just and Lucy the Valiant, and their qualifications are (respectively) High King AND Queen, not High King and High Queen. That is different, but Caspian did not mean that at all. The sentence is very specific as to who is High King and who is the Queen. Go ahead, ask a good English teacher. Caspian did address Admund as High King, and that is still wrong.
 
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