Ending Thoughts

White Wolf

White Wolf

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I just put down the Silver Chair, and Last Battle....

Wow..... wow wow wow wow wow

I recently reread LLW, PC, DT, SC, and LB in order (don't know about Nephew or HASB yet) but wow...

Peter- High King
Lucy- THe Valiant
Edmund- The Just

Gone. Dead. All of them, like the winds of summer.

Eustance Scrubb
Jill Pole

Best friends, possibly lovers? Boyfriend and Girlfriend. Newest King and Queen of Narnia. Together, forever.

I read with great joy as Eustance became the man I'd hoped him to be, from Treader to Silver Chair. I knew he cared for Jill, when they went after Rilian with Puddleglum

I guess I'm still in shock, knowing that they are going to die... killed in a accident, but living forever with Aslan

Anyone else feel this way, seeing- well, reading them after their deathes? If they make, Last Battle, do you think they'll show Susan, in her dark aftermath after the accident?

How old are Peter, Edmund, Lucy, Eustance, and Jill by the Last Battle, anyways?
 
haha...yeah, my thoughts exactly after I read it for the first time (and second, and third...) :).

It is kind of shocking that it ends that way, but the overwhelming aspect for me was their intense joy at having arrived in "Aslan's Country" at last-the same feeling that Reepicheep must have had at the end of Dawn Treader.
 
Yes, I did have a feeling similar to that. Kind of a joy that they reaches Aslans country mixed with sadness that they are dead and won't be fighting Jadis or anyone anymore. But their start in new Narnia was like the beginning of chapter one and everything else was just like the cover of a book.
 
Supposedly - based on that speculative Narnian timeline. I traced down the source of that, and it's from a book called Past Watchful Dragons, published by Walter Hooper after Lewis' death. As I mentioned in another thread, some of what Hooper has published in Lewis' name has come under criticism by Lewis experts as being somewhat suspect - not quite Lewis, so to speak. I've never read the book, but I've got my questions.
 
Really? Wow... Lucy and Edmund really are older than Jill and Eustance...

I hated it when the Pevensie's could never come back...:_:

But if Lu, Peter, and Ed could say something to Susan, coming back in spirit form ala how King Trinian did, what do you think they'd say?
 
Accident..

Why do you think Lewis killed them all off? I haven't read the LB, but most stories just end happily. Even the LOTR ended well. Frodo, Bilbo and Gandalf go into the West, which is sort of like joining Aslan's country, but why do you think Lewis chose to have the accident happen at all?? :(
 
TolkienGoddess said:
Why do you think Lewis killed them all off? I haven't read the LB, but most stories just end happily. Even the LOTR ended well. Frodo, Bilbo and Gandalf go into the West, which is sort of like joining Aslan's country, but why do you think Lewis chose to have the accident happen at all?? :(
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um, might want to read the LB. they all die except Susan. THere are many threads about Susan's life after LB. As far as the movie I would imagine they show a glimpse of Susan getting the news, heartbroken, and then I picture her going through their things and coming across a diary of Lucy's about Narnia and maybe Jill's coronation clothes. I imagine her sinking to the floor with these in her hand and remembering all she had tried to forget with a look of renewed hope on her face.
 
TolkienGoddess said:
why do you think Lewis chose to have the accident happen at all?? :(
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I think unleavened has the gist of it. For Aslan, and His followers, death is not an end, but a doorway to something better. After all, that's what "passing into the West" is in Tolkien's lore, at least for the elves (and a few hobbits, and even one dwarf). The Friends of Narnia simply passed into the West via the doorway of earthly death. It was no tragedy for them, though it was for those left behind.

(btw, nice imagination picture, unleavened!)
 
uh, onlymystory, Jill became a Queen only after she was tossed through the stable door into the True Narnia, so I don't think Susan would find any coronation clothes in their belongings.
 
the clothes from the coronation ceremony of Prince Rilian. Jill and Eustace were dressed in them right before Aslan took them away and they were wearing them in their own country when they went after "them". sorry, didn't mean for her coronation just coronation clothes in general as in fancy clothes.
 
I think many of you are missing the point entirely. Susan is not going to come back. Remember, Lewis says that she is "no longer a friend of Narnia." This would extrapolate to mean that she turned her back on Narnia and on Aslan. She won't be joining them. :-(

However, there is the thought that "once a king or queen in Narnia, always a king or queen in Narnia." So maybe that means that Susan had her fire insurance if you know what I mean. When we all get to heaven we can ask Jack what he meant to happen.
 
Puzzle dear, you ARE a dear, and quite right. However, there were her clothes from Narnia that she puts off at the end of SC and wears to a fancy dress ball the next holiday.

What I do find interesting is that Lewis refers to all the friends of Narnia as Kings and Queens, even though Eustace and Jill had never been proclaimed so in the "shadow Narnia." Similarly, after calling them Kings and Queens, Lewis refers to LORD Digory and LADY Polly. Another truth we shall never know until Heaven.

But, AH, the Truth we shall know then. And His name is Jesus. Hallelujah!
 
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