How to develop the romance

Sven-El said:
Plus as to setting up Lucy's beauty, a lot of that has been established on the groudns of Susan in the book. IE , it mentions adutls considered her the prettier of the two, and when she's looking in the magician's book and sees the spell to make her beutiful, her picture is juxtaposed with that of Susan.
It's not about her and R's daughter, it's about her and her jealousy against her sister.

And her adn Drinian, that's just wrong. I always pictured Drinian as being older then even Caspian. (he'd kind of ahve to be to be a Captain. Unless he does the whole Star TRek reboot thing.)
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Agreed. Lewis established that her jealousy was because of Susan, not R'sD. Plus, to put R'sD in earlier would mess up the story. The whole wonder of R's island is in part to his daughter. When she appears in the book, it's a jaw-drop-so-mesmerized kind of moment. The whole magic of that moment would be lost if they brought her in earlier. Not to mention, it wouldn't make sense and it would be hard to explain.

Yes, her and Drinian is just wrong. It also borders on being creepy. Drinian would have to be older than Caspian, simply because he seems to have more experience than the others. They should make him kind of like Cornelius. Maybe not as old, but as wise.
 
Also it would make no sense for Lucy to be jealous of someone who was clearly not human. It would be like Penelope in the Odyssey being jealous of Helen of Troy. One was human, the other was the daughter of Zeus. You cannot put Lucy on the same platform as R's daughter.

Exactly. The Caspian Susan stuff "works" as even in the books, they are a bit closer in age ( at least a year of two appart between them since he's Peter's age). I also pictured Drinian being more wise in the sense that he had seen a lot and done a lot in all his years at sea.
 
Agreed, again. :)

This is random, but I thought of it again when you said the thing about Caspian and Su's ages. Susan said that, "it would never have worked anyway...I am 1300 years older than you", but, that obviously wasn't a problem for Arwen and ARagorn; Arwen was AT least 2500 years older than Aragorn. If not older.
 
Remember that Aragorn was a lot more mature than Caspian (I'm just saying).

Drinian, I feel, can't be terribly old--you wouldn't want someone too old to climb robes and handle things out in the middle of uncharted waters--but to make him young enough to be with Lucy...how much experience could he have? You don't want an inexperienced captain on that sort of voyage.
 
Not necissairly. Look at Lord of the Rings with Aragorn and Arwen... then again plenty of that was taken from the Appendicies, which is why Peter Jackson has earend so much of my respect with his adaptation. He didn't just poor over the text untill the pages of LOTR were falling out of the book, but he went through the Appendicies, the Silmarillion and Tolkien's notes on Middle earth to the point cast members said they couldn't even sneeze without bumping into a copy. Even the bits with Eowen and Aragorn were alluded to in the books.

Semi on topic, for Drinian to be as young Lucy, ( or at least young enough to be atrtached to her)he'd have to be a Cabin Boy...

Unless he's made "acting first office" by Captain Mike, while acting captain is a centaur, before Captian Mike is taken as a slave in the Lone Islands( where he dies), and in order to become captain, Drinian has to show that the centaur is emotionally compromsied. Then after the centaur relinquishes command, Edmund says: " Great, we got a ship and a crew but now captain and no first officer to replace him."
Drinian: Yes, we do."
( sits in Captain's chair.)
 
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One of the many plotholes (although they're great) in the Star trek film is that Kirk shouldn't have even taken command. There IS a chain of command on every Federation vessel. It's like in our American government. When the President is assassinated or taken out of office, the office of presidency goes to the Vice President. Then if the VP is unable to fulfill his duties, it goes to the Speaker of the House, and so on. So, to address that, McCoy, Uhura, Chekov, or Sulu should have been able to have taken command in a lawful way. Abrams forgot about that chain of command (probably very similar to something in our military)

Like I said, a drinian\Lucy romance would be creepy, awkward, and uncomfortable. It's stupid to put something in to explain Lucy's jealousy when Lewis already had an explanation: Susan.

But yes, Jackson defended some of the A\A changes by saying that he combed through the extras of the books. I haven't ever read the Appendices, so I don't know what's in them, but if he says he went through them, I believe him. Besides, I don't care about how mature Caspian was (or wasn't). It was a dumb line if fans consider the age gap between Aragorn and Arwen when it wasn't a problem, more maturity or not.
 
Josh said:
Keep in mind that Aragorn and Arwen, while having a great age difference, physically look the same age.
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I find it strange that this is something that somehow makes it all better. She was still an adult when he was born; how does the fact that they now look about the same help that? It's the same question I had for Twilight--sure, Edward looks seventeen, but no amount of looking is going to change the fact that he's old enough to be Bella's great-grandfather.
 
Yeah, I'd find it a little difficult, in this day and age, to get into a relationship with a guy who make look 20, but is actually 40. I mean, gross.
 
No matter the "actual" ages, a relationship between what appears to be a young girl and an adult man (or the oppsite dyad) is always going to be weird at best. I have to say, however, that Natalie Babbit did a good job describing a crush between a ten-year-olod girl and a 17 (actually about 94)-year-old guy in her novel "Tuck Everlasting". What she did was make Winnie have a crush on Jesse while Jesse looked at Winnie as a possible wife in about eight years.

That said, the only way I see the filmmakers would give Lucy a romance would be to make Eustace a close family friend, but that would ruin his relationship with Jill.

Now if you want another relationship that I thought of, go soon to the silly ideas thread to see a really fun relationship for Lucy.

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@ Mr. Bob, A good pont about Tuck everlasting. Actually, I think it's been discussed here already, but it never really was specified how old R's daughter was suppsoed to be, I mean she is a star's daughter afterall, and we don't knwo what her mother was ( was her mother human? Was her mother a dryad? or maybe a niad?) and to expect her to be older then she looks isn't that unlikely.

I think that's what makes her so facinating is we do not fully know about her, or her origins past who her father was, who her husband was and who her son was.

But perhaps in relation to her, the less that is said about her, her full origins and her age, the better. Much like with Arargorn adn Arwen as it does ellimante the uncofmortabel factor of their ages, but it still puts in the aura of mystery that they need, which Caspian adn R's daughter need.
 
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Sven-El said:
@ Mr. Bob, A good pont about Tuck everlasting. Actually, I think it's been discussed here already, but it never really was specified how old R's daughter was suppsoed to be, I mean she is a star's daughter afterall, and we don't knwo what her mother was ( was her mother human? Was her mother a dryad? or maybe a niad?) and to expect her to be older then she looks isn't that unlikely.

I think that's what makes her so facinating is we do not fully know about her, or her origins past who her father was, who her husband was and who her son was.

But perhaps in relation to her, the less that is said about her, her full origins and her age, the better. Much like with Arargorn adn Arwen as it does ellimante the uncofmortabel factor of their ages, but it still puts in the aura of mystery that they need, which Caspian adn R's daughter need.
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^agrees :)

But I think R's daughter is half-human...at least, that's what I figured, anyway. It says she's not really a star, but she's kinda human, so I thought she was half-human and half-star. I dunno :p
 
I think she's only part star because of what Lewis said in Silver chair, "It was said that she had the blood of a star ran through her veins" or something like that, and to me, it gave the indication that maybe she wasn't a full immortal.
 
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