Lady of the Green Kirtle

Good point though if you go back and read some of the early posts here you realise that this tread started out as a `who should play her` debate.
Still, its pointless to have two threads on the same subject.

SO, what do people think `Green Lady`s` origins might be and what part, if any Jadis had in it?
I take it that we are all agreed that she ISN`T the same person.
 
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If anything, Jadis was admired by the Green Witch. I agree with some one who posted something on a different thread about Jadis not taking on any apprentices. Jadis knew she would theoretically live forever (she did not take into account Aslan killing her) she did not want anyone who would challenge her so she would not have taught anyone about her magic. In MN, Lewis tried to make a point in saying that the north country was the place to learn dark magic by having Aslan say that Jadis would grow stronger in Dark magic there. Thus we know that the north was a place where bad magic was strong, it might have been almost inevitable that the Green Witch would become bad.

Another thing that we may think of is whether the Green witch enslaved the underworld for the purpose of taking out Jadis and establishing her own kingdom in the first place. It is entirely possible that Jealousy rather than admiration was her motivator.

I have said in the past (also on other threads) that I thought that the green witch was part human and part poisonous-plant spirit. We know that the nymphs and dryads could marry humans because Frank and Helen's children married them. It is entirely probable that a seducing poisonous-plant spirit convinced a human to marry her and the rest is history. It would make the plant-like green and her desire to emerge from the ground and take Narnia very normal and the plant part of her explains her long life. It gives weight to the saying of Mr. Beaver, beware of things that ought to be human but aren't.
 
I tend to think that what Jadis would have done in the long period after the events of `The Magicians Nephew` and before `The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe` would be make herself a sort of `Witch Queen` in the north.
To do this she would have to make alliances with those Narnian creatures with a tendency towards evil like the Giants, Hags, Werewolves and others, those of other races who were of like mind would probably gravitate towards her as well.

While I agree that Jadis would keep most of her power for herself its possible that from time to time she taught various people fragments of what she knew to make them better minions. Over time she would create a `Court of Witches` about her who would continually fight amongst themselves for her approval and she would ocasionally crush like a bug any one of them who became overambitious. I think she would tend to favour the most human looking of her subjects for positions at court in order to support her claim to be of `Adams Blood`.

Since we know that the humans of Narnia are of mixed Human/Dryad origin even if there have been later influxes of `Pure` humans from Earth like the Telmarines (some Dwarf and Faun/Satyr blood would also enter the population over time) then it does make a lot of sense for `The Lady of the Green Kirtle` to be someone of mixed blood where the Nymph/Dryad element is much stronger than normal.
If she has been using magic to extend her life even further then perhaps she was a member of the `Court of Witches` sent by Jadis to conquer the underground realm somewhere round the time of Jadis`s invasion of Narnia (though that makes her about 1500 years old).

On the other hand perhaps `The Court` just started fighting amongst themselves in the north after Jadis fell and `Green Lady` is just a later inheritor of that tradition who is trying to emulate Jadis.
 
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There could have been some strategic teaching of underlings, but I think that LotGK knew more magic than Jadis would have taught because she could enslave a whole people's thoughts and force them to work for her, and the fact that she drew them to her from the depths of the earth is also rather impressive. No Jadis would not have taught that much lest it have been used against her. The green witch controlled the actions of a whole people that would have been a match for the evil minions of Jadis.
 
Of course if LOtGK IS about 1500 years old then thats plenty of time for her to learn and develop her magic beyond what she might have been taught by Jadis. This could even explain why she took so long before mounting her own attack on Narnia, it just took centuries for her knowledge and power to develop to the point where she she could gain absolute control of the underground realm.
On the other hand, if the situation is that in the period after Jadis`s death a sort of endless civil war started in the north amongst the lesser witches, then a sort of `survival of the fittest` situation would develop. Each of these `Jadis wannabees` would try develop their skills farther and in turn recruit their own minions. In time the most sucessful would develop in power and learn a lot more about magic than perhaps even Jadis ever knew. In that scenario then `The Green Witch` could be the most powerful witch around and the inheritor of a tradition of black magic going back over a thousand years.
 
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What about Anna Walton as the Lady of the Green Kirtle? as mentioned in the 'Ramandu's daughter' thread...
She's got that level of beauty that is described as having seduced Rillian into following her...and she's worked with Guillermo del Toro recently
 
I picure the Lady like Keira Knightley, but she's too famous, it won't work, and I agree, I think it depends on who they pick for Rillian :p
 
Plus I ...personally don't think Keira Knightley has a broad enough acting range to manage the part...she's got a volume knob for her acting but no range
 
yeah she has the looks of a supermodel...maybe the fact that she's so pretty affects how we see her in roles...like people with a strong look once they play a big role usually have a hard time breaking the image from our minds
 
Yeah ...

I just want them to pick a reallly pretty girl if they want Rillian to be seduced (it's kind of logic:p)
 
That is why Audrey Hepburn and Judy Garland are normally concidered the quintessential beauties even to this day.
 
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