Peepiceek's Odd-One-Out Quiz
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Peepiceek
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Well, it's a while since this thread was last active, but I'm in a quizzing mood, so I've just created five new puzzles, with a range of difficulties. Maybe veterans might leave the easier ones for newcomers to have a go at.
Quick reminder of the rules: the four clues all have something in common, but one is slightly different from the other three. For example:
(a) albatross
(b) cat
(c) lamb
(d) man
The connection here is 'forms taken by Aslan'. Aslan appears as an albatross, a cat and a lamb. He does not appear as a man, but Lucy and Bree both think that he is a man before they meet him, so (d) is the odd one out.
#58. (easy)
(a) Dragon Island
(b) Burnt Island
(c) Deathwater Island
(d) Ramandu’s Island
#59. (fairly easy)
(a) Lune
(b) Ram
(c) Caspian VIII
(d) Erlian
#60. (medium)
(a) THE QUEEN
(b) the true King
(c) Queen Susan
(d) your Majesty
#61. (tricky)
(a) One of the last people in England with fairy blood
(b) King Edmund
(c) Caspian’s would-be father-in-law
(d) Lord Bern
#62. (tough)
(a) Peter, Professor Kirke
(b) Edmund, Edmund
(c) The bullies, Jill Pole
(d) Polly, Uncle Andrew
And if you want more, go back to the previous page and you'll find that puzzles #44, #46, #48, #56 and #57 are all still unsolved.
Happy puzzling!
Peeps
Quick reminder of the rules: the four clues all have something in common, but one is slightly different from the other three. For example:
(a) albatross
(b) cat
(c) lamb
(d) man
The connection here is 'forms taken by Aslan'. Aslan appears as an albatross, a cat and a lamb. He does not appear as a man, but Lucy and Bree both think that he is a man before they meet him, so (d) is the odd one out.
#58. (easy)
(a) Dragon Island
(b) Burnt Island
(c) Deathwater Island
(d) Ramandu’s Island
#59. (fairly easy)
(a) Lune
(b) Ram
(c) Caspian VIII
(d) Erlian
#60. (medium)
(a) THE QUEEN
(b) the true King
(c) Queen Susan
(d) your Majesty
#61. (tricky)
(a) One of the last people in England with fairy blood
(b) King Edmund
(c) Caspian’s would-be father-in-law
(d) Lord Bern
#62. (tough)
(a) Peter, Professor Kirke
(b) Edmund, Edmund
(c) The bullies, Jill Pole
(d) Polly, Uncle Andrew
And if you want more, go back to the previous page and you'll find that puzzles #44, #46, #48, #56 and #57 are all still unsolved.
Happy puzzling!
Peeps
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TimmyofOz
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I'll try #61. Mrs Lefay(fairy blood person) was in prison for some crime, Edmund was a prisoner of the White Queen, and Ramandu (in-law person) was held as a prisoner on Ramandu's Island (too old to leave). Lord Bern was on the other hand just exiled from Narnia with 6 others and he ended up living on the Lone Islands.
Peepiceek
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I do like that thinking, though I'm not sure Ramandu would really count as a 'prisoner'. If the connection were about prisoners, there are several better clues I could have given than Ramandu, and I would have had to say 'Edmund' rather than 'King Edmund'.
Let me give you some pointers in how to approach these questions. Remember that I think really carefully about how I word them. Notice carefully the wording of the question, including what is not said as well as what is said. You may for example wonder, on #62, why I have said "Jill Pole" rather than "Jill" but "Polly" rather than "Polly Plummer".
The clues are also always listed in order. This is normally chronological order, although occasionally publication, alphabetical or some other ordering seems more appropriate.
The question often hinges on a particular detail or phrase in the book. If you catch the meaning on one clue (often the most obscure) you can often then see your way to the connection and then to the answer. (On #61, I'd say (c) is the clue to try to break first.) The wording of the clues may also give a clue to the connection or to the reason that the odd one out is odd.
I try my best to make the problems such that, once you see the answer, you know for certain that that is the answer. I really like the solutions to be 'clean' in that way. I can't tell you how many partial questions I have on my computer, unposted, because I have three clues but not a fourth, or four great connected clues but no satisfying odd one out.
That said, this next problem is not quite as perfectly 'clean' as I would like, but once you spot the connection, you should get the answer fairly easily. I'd rate it as a 'medium'.
#63.
(a) Arsheesh
(b) The Hermit of the Southern March
(c) King Lune
(d) King Lune
Peeps
Let me give you some pointers in how to approach these questions. Remember that I think really carefully about how I word them. Notice carefully the wording of the question, including what is not said as well as what is said. You may for example wonder, on #62, why I have said "Jill Pole" rather than "Jill" but "Polly" rather than "Polly Plummer".
The clues are also always listed in order. This is normally chronological order, although occasionally publication, alphabetical or some other ordering seems more appropriate.
The question often hinges on a particular detail or phrase in the book. If you catch the meaning on one clue (often the most obscure) you can often then see your way to the connection and then to the answer. (On #61, I'd say (c) is the clue to try to break first.) The wording of the clues may also give a clue to the connection or to the reason that the odd one out is odd.
I try my best to make the problems such that, once you see the answer, you know for certain that that is the answer. I really like the solutions to be 'clean' in that way. I can't tell you how many partial questions I have on my computer, unposted, because I have three clues but not a fourth, or four great connected clues but no satisfying odd one out.
That said, this next problem is not quite as perfectly 'clean' as I would like, but once you spot the connection, you should get the answer fairly easily. I'd rate it as a 'medium'.
#63.
(a) Arsheesh
(b) The Hermit of the Southern March
(c) King Lune
(d) King Lune
Peeps
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#59. All these men were kings, three of whom had famous progeny:
(a) Lune was the father of Shasta/Cor, who saved Archenland from a treacherous Calormene attack
(b) Ram
(c) Caspian VIII was the grandfather of Caspian X, who delivered Old Narnia from Telmarine oppression
(d) Erlian - was the father of Tirian, who stood true during the last dark days of Narnia.
Although Ram was the greatest king of Archen land, and although we know his brave father (Shasta/Cor), we don't know any of his children or grandchildren.
(a) Lune was the father of Shasta/Cor, who saved Archenland from a treacherous Calormene attack
(b) Ram
(c) Caspian VIII was the grandfather of Caspian X, who delivered Old Narnia from Telmarine oppression
(d) Erlian - was the father of Tirian, who stood true during the last dark days of Narnia.
Although Ram was the greatest king of Archen land, and although we know his brave father (Shasta/Cor), we don't know any of his children or grandchildren.
Peepiceek
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True, but really not specific enough, and not what I was looking for. I could be wrong, but I don't think (b) is used to refer to more than one character. In fact, (a), (b), (c) and (d) refer to four specific characters.
I will also give you that (c) could have been replaced by King Peter, King Edmund or Queen Lucy without changing the answer to the question. Also, if you go back and look at the question again, you will see I have amended it very slightly. I didn't do that at first because I thought that would make the answer too obvious, but on reflection maybe it is necessary to prevent the question from being too obscure.
Peeps
I will also give you that (c) could have been replaced by King Peter, King Edmund or Queen Lucy without changing the answer to the question. Also, if you go back and look at the question again, you will see I have amended it very slightly. I didn't do that at first because I thought that would make the answer too obvious, but on reflection maybe it is necessary to prevent the question from being too obscure.
Peeps
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#57.
(a) Digory's (first) visit to Narnia
Digory did not have Narnia in mind as a destination when Strawberry the horse started drinking from a random pool in the Woods-between-the-Worlds; he just wanted to get Jadis away from the world of men somehow.
(b) Lucy's first visit to Narnia
Lucy was not trying to get into Narnia, and at this point she did not even know of its existence; she was simply checking out the wardrobe when she stumbled upon it.
(c) Eustace's second / Jill's first visit to Narnia
(d) Eustace and Jill's final visit to Narnia
Although Eustace and Jill had been wanting to get to Narnia (by means of the rings the other friends of Narnia were bringing them), at the moment they were drawn into that fair land they had simply been waiting at a railway station.
Although all four of these events listed deal with travels from our world to Narnia, only "Visit C" is characterized by an intentional, active effort on the part of a son of Adam/daughter of Eve to get into Narnia itself. As Jill said to Aslan, "...It was we who asked to come here..."
(a) Digory's (first) visit to Narnia
Digory did not have Narnia in mind as a destination when Strawberry the horse started drinking from a random pool in the Woods-between-the-Worlds; he just wanted to get Jadis away from the world of men somehow.
(b) Lucy's first visit to Narnia
Lucy was not trying to get into Narnia, and at this point she did not even know of its existence; she was simply checking out the wardrobe when she stumbled upon it.
(c) Eustace's second / Jill's first visit to Narnia
(d) Eustace and Jill's final visit to Narnia
Although Eustace and Jill had been wanting to get to Narnia (by means of the rings the other friends of Narnia were bringing them), at the moment they were drawn into that fair land they had simply been waiting at a railway station.
Although all four of these events listed deal with travels from our world to Narnia, only "Visit C" is characterized by an intentional, active effort on the part of a son of Adam/daughter of Eve to get into Narnia itself. As Jill said to Aslan, "...It was we who asked to come here..."
Peepiceek
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Although that is not the answer I had in mind, I can't find fault with it, so I'll have to call it a correct answer Sometimes these questions do lend themselves to more than one correct answer.
But I'll leave it open for other attempts. The clue I'll give for the answer I had in mind is that the three not-odd clues are the only three I could have chosen, while for the odd one I could have chosen any of the other arrivals in Narnia recorded in the Chronicles.
Peeps
Sometimes these questions do lend themselves to more than one correct answer.But I'll leave it open for other attempts. The clue I'll give for the answer I had in mind is that the three not-odd clues are the only three I could have chosen, while for the odd one I could have chosen any of the other arrivals in Narnia recorded in the Chronicles.
Peeps
Peepiceek
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In fact, I've just seen another possible solution to #57. It might even be the original solution I had in mind when I first posted it (I wrote it a couple of years ago and never kept a record of the answers, so I have to try to work out the answers to my own puzzles sometimes!!)
I don't really like #57, because I try to make the puzzles such that there is a reason why the odd one out is odd, ie. a reason why I chose that clue rather than some other, rather than just being three things that fit together and one that doesn't. So the original #57 really doesn't meet my normal quality control standards Sorry.
I've redrafted it, and come up with two new puzzles instead, to reflect the two possible answers I had in mind.
#57a.
(a) Digory and Polly's (first) visit to Narnia
(b) The first time all four Pevensies visited Narnia
(c) The second time all four Pevensies visited Narnia
(d) Eustace and Jill's final visit to Narnia
#57b.
(a) Digory and Polly’s visit to Charn
(b) Digory and Polly’s (first) visit to Narnia
(c) Lucy's first visit to Narnia
(d) Eustace and Jill's final visit to Narnia
I'm still not 100% satisfied with #57b as a question, but it's definitely better than the original #57.
I do hope someone will have another crack at #61. I think, of all the puzzles I have posted in this thread, that one is possibly my favourite so far. If you know the Chronicles well, it is quite solvable, but if there's a bit you don't remember it might require a collaborative effort to solve it - so even if you don't have the solution, do post your partial thinking on it (or any other problems) and see if it sparks someone else's thoughts. And do check out the tips I gave on how I set the problems (and therefore on how to solve them) in post #465. The purpose of these puzzles, as well as to be fun, is to make you think, and to make you notice details you might not have seen before, thereby helping develop a knowledge of the Chronicles, and even perhaps sparking spin-off discussions on them.
Peeps
I don't really like #57, because I try to make the puzzles such that there is a reason why the odd one out is odd, ie. a reason why I chose that clue rather than some other, rather than just being three things that fit together and one that doesn't. So the original #57 really doesn't meet my normal quality control standards
Sorry.I've redrafted it, and come up with two new puzzles instead, to reflect the two possible answers I had in mind.
#57a.
(a) Digory and Polly's (first) visit to Narnia
(b) The first time all four Pevensies visited Narnia
(c) The second time all four Pevensies visited Narnia
(d) Eustace and Jill's final visit to Narnia
#57b.
(a) Digory and Polly’s visit to Charn
(b) Digory and Polly’s (first) visit to Narnia
(c) Lucy's first visit to Narnia
(d) Eustace and Jill's final visit to Narnia
I'm still not 100% satisfied with #57b as a question, but it's definitely better than the original #57.
I do hope someone will have another crack at #61. I think, of all the puzzles I have posted in this thread, that one is possibly my favourite so far. If you know the Chronicles well, it is quite solvable, but if there's a bit you don't remember it might require a collaborative effort to solve it - so even if you don't have the solution, do post your partial thinking on it (or any other problems) and see if it sparks someone else's thoughts. And do check out the tips I gave on how I set the problems (and therefore on how to solve them) in post #465. The purpose of these puzzles, as well as to be fun, is to make you think, and to make you notice details you might not have seen before, thereby helping develop a knowledge of the Chronicles, and even perhaps sparking spin-off discussions on them.
Peeps
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Peepiceek
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The forum has been very quiet for the last few years, but maybe there are enough people around now to revive this quiz thread.
Quick reminder of the rules: the four clues all have something in common, but one is slightly different from the other three. For example:
(a) albatross
(b) cat
(c) lamb
(d) man
The connection here is 'forms taken by Aslan'. Aslan appears as an albatross, a cat and a lamb. He does not appear as a man, but Lucy and Bree both think that he is a man before they meet him, so (d) is the odd one out.
There are still some unanswered questions above if you want to track back (#44, #46, #48, #56, #57a and b, #58 and #60-63), but here are some new ones for you.
#64. (tricky)
(a) Aravis
(b) Liln
(c) Jadis
(d) Polly
#65. (quite easy)
(a) the bar of a lamp-post
(b) some scrap metal
(c) a toffee
(d) an apple
#66. (medium)
(a) not shutting oneself in a wardrobe
(b) the cleaning of a sword
(c) the spelling of abhominable
(d) a vivid dream
#67. (easy) - Solved by Mr Bob, post #480 below
(a) shield
(b) horn
(c) torch
(d) dagger
#68. (medium)
(a) an exceedingly expensive and ostentatious lunch
(b) some tattered old boy’s clothes
(c) Caspian
(d) some oranges and bananas
#69. (hard)
(a) Jadis
(b) Trumpkin
(c) Sopespian & Glozelle
(d) Roonwit
Have fun
Peeps
Quick reminder of the rules: the four clues all have something in common, but one is slightly different from the other three. For example:
(a) albatross
(b) cat
(c) lamb
(d) man
The connection here is 'forms taken by Aslan'. Aslan appears as an albatross, a cat and a lamb. He does not appear as a man, but Lucy and Bree both think that he is a man before they meet him, so (d) is the odd one out.
There are still some unanswered questions above if you want to track back (#44, #46, #48, #56, #57a and b, #58 and #60-63), but here are some new ones for you.
#64. (tricky)
(a) Aravis
(b) Liln
(c) Jadis
(d) Polly
#65. (quite easy)
(a) the bar of a lamp-post
(b) some scrap metal
(c) a toffee
(d) an apple
#66. (medium)
(a) not shutting oneself in a wardrobe
(b) the cleaning of a sword
(c) the spelling of abhominable
(d) a vivid dream
#67. (easy) - Solved by Mr Bob, post #480 below
(a) shield
(b) horn
(c) torch
(d) dagger
#68. (medium)
(a) an exceedingly expensive and ostentatious lunch
(b) some tattered old boy’s clothes
(c) Caspian
(d) some oranges and bananas
#69. (hard)
(a) Jadis
(b) Trumpkin
(c) Sopespian & Glozelle
(d) Roonwit
Have fun
Peeps
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Peepiceek
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She is only mentioned once, near the end of HHB. No, not Ramandu's daughter (who I don't think is ever named).
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Copperfox
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Aravis was born in the WORLD of Narnia, but in the LAND of Calormen.
Peepiceek is correct that Ramandu's daughter was never named by Mister Lewis. If he had named her, it would have been something more original than "Liliandil."
Which of the following is "odd thing out"? Note that here I do NOT have in mind the fact that one is located on Earth.
1 ) Experiment House.
2 ) The Telmarine school where "Miss Prizzle" was a teacher.
3 ) The home of the Hermit of Archenland.
Peepiceek is correct that Ramandu's daughter was never named by Mister Lewis. If he had named her, it would have been something more original than "Liliandil."
Which of the following is "odd thing out"? Note that here I do NOT have in mind the fact that one is located on Earth.
1 ) Experiment House.
2 ) The Telmarine school where "Miss Prizzle" was a teacher.
3 ) The home of the Hermit of Archenland.