PrinceCaspianWannabe IS CASPIAN! *GASP*

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tottyfruitty said:
ewww!well thats what comes with it! gross. i would never touch the stuff. the smoke makes me cough so much.
PCWB you smoke?
i thought auditions were over

I don't. I have the occasional cigar (1 every 2 months or less) with friends. That really isn't smoking.
 
this girl in my class told me that her grandpa made her dad sniff ash because he smoked...and he never smoked again... so she sniffed ash...and she will never smoke, so she says.
 
.:Out.of.the.Blue:. said:
this girl in my class told me that her grandpa made her dad sniff ash because he smoked...and he never smoked again... so she sniffed ash...and she will never smoke, so she says.

Makes sense. Ash is trash.
 
PrinceCaspianwannabe said:
I am a senior, and I am guilty of both. Well Cigarettes are nasty pieces of *****. The occasional cigar (once every 2 months) with your male friends is classy. You don't inhale so I see it as acceptable. Drinking is not good on a regular basis. However, the occasional buzz (1 a month or less) at a party isn't that bad.
I dunno when this discussion veered off into smoking and drinking, but some things you should know: in the year 2000, two of the three leading causes of death in the USA were:

* Tobacco (435,000 deaths)
* Alcohol consumption (85,000 deaths, which included over 16,000 auto accident deaths attributable to alcohol)

These are deadly substances when mis-used, and in the USA people who begin drinking in their teens (or earlier) are far more likely to become alcohlics than those who do not drink or who begin drinking as adults.

Please do not play a stupid game with your future and start using alcohol and tobacco while you are young.

And let's now stop talking about whether teenagers or younger people should or should not drink or smoke, OK? In the USA it is illegal, so you are more or less encouraging youngsters to break the law if you continue in thie vein.

Thank you.
 
It IS good to know. Here's a story.

My grandfather smoked when he was young (back then, they didn't know it was so bad for you). Eventually, he quit, but years later, because of his earlier years smoking, he got emphysema (spelling???). Most of my time growing up, I had to hear and watch him cough and use inhalers and a machine that helped clear the congestion in his chest. It was terrible to have to watch and listen to that every time I went over to his apartment to visit him. He also had to have an oxygen machine, and everyone could hear it humming if you went close enough to the room it was in. Sometimes, my grandpa would have to go off into the bathroom if he had a really bad coughing fit. It sounded like he was in so much pain--sometimes he'd be in there for over 5 minutes.

Eventually, my uncle had to move back to the D.C. area from Florida, give up his job and everything in order to take care of my grandparents (my grandma had brain cancer, so she needed a lot of help too). Because of his sacrifice, he still, to this day, doesn't have a steady job. My dad and other uncle had to take turns watching my grandparents on weekends sometimes, when my uncle had a gig w/ his band (he's a drummer). So I would sometimes be alone in the house w/ just my mom @ night, which was really scary. A few years before he died--around Father's Day--my grandpa had to go to the hospital for a really long time, and I was so scared that he might die (my grandma had already passed away about 1 or 2 years before). Luckily, he was okay, but I think that was sort of a warning--or, how shall I say it--foreshadowing is better--of what was to come. I'm pretty sure God was trying to tell us that it wouldn't be long before the "time" really did come (the same sort of thing happened before w/ my Grandma).

In summer of 2003, he went back to the hospital, and that time, he pretty much lapsed into a coma. He was unresponsive for a time, until one day when he was actually awake and talked to me and my mom. The last thing he said to us was, "Bye, girls!" as we were walking out of his room. After that, I don't think he ever woke up again. He would lie on the bed w/ his mouth open, sleeping, while the oxygen machine was running, and I would always watch the heart monitor and keep praying for his heart rate to stay normal. It was so strange watching him and talking to him when he didn't respond, but we knew he could hear us.

A few days before he died, at summer camp, this dove flew in to our lunch table area and landed on one of the tables. It was really strange...but I think it was some sort of way of God giving me peace with the situation. Another thing like that happened when I just "happened" to hear the song "It is Well with my Soul" being played on the radio one day when we left the hospital. That was not a coincidence. The day he died, at 9 PM, I sort of felt this sensation that something at happened, and I started to pray. When my dad and uncle got home, the told me and my mom my grandpa had died. It didn't really hit me until the wake, because that's when you actually see the person...
Luckily, my family's really close, so we were able to get through it.

I'm sorry I told that overly sentimental story, but I feel I have a duty to tell what happened to my grandfather--and my entire family--all because he smoked. One little action can affect not only yourself but everyone around you, especially those you love. One of my greatest wishes is for those people who smoke (especially those in Europe, b/c too many people smoke there) to somehow get to know someone who's had or is having the same experience I did. I wish that they could see what's going to happen to them and their families once the years pass by and they get older. If they only knew--and they saw it face-to-face--they would stop, I'm sure of it. SMOKING KILLS PEOPLE. It's not a joke, it's not just some stupid catch-phrase people use on public service announcements. It's the TRUTH. And no one can say it isn't b/c I have this story to tell. I know what it does to people. SMOKING KILLED MY GRANDFATHER. It wasn't his fault, because he didn't know what it could do to him, but now we know. We're lucky. We should take good advantage of what we know now and use the knowledge to help ourselves and others. I know I will never smoke, to honor my grandpa. I know none of you like the idea of smoking, but I urge you terribly to help those who find it okay. Think of what might happen to them. Whether they're friends or enemies, you need to say something. Don't let what happened to my grandpa happen to them--try as hard as you can, even if they don't listen at first. Please, I'm asking you, we've got to do something. People in the future don't deserve to be hurt b/c of what their friends/family do now.

I'm sorry again for posting something so personal and so depressing, but whenever this subject comes up, I feel a real need to tell this story and ask people to take action. I hope you understand. I promise we'll stick to lighter topics from now on.
 
inkspot said:
I dunno when this discussion veered off into smoking and drinking, but some things you should know: in the year 2000, two of the three leading causes of death in the USA were:

* Tobacco (435,000 deaths)
* Alcohol consumption (85,000 deaths, which included over 16,000 auto accident deaths attributable to alcohol)

These are deadly substances when mis-used, and in the USA people who begin drinking in their teens (or earlier) are far more likely to become alcohlics than those who do not drink or who begin drinking as adults.

Please do not play a stupid game with your future and start using alcohol and tobacco while you are young.

And let's now stop talking about whether teenagers or younger people should or should not drink or smoke, OK? In the USA it is illegal, so you are more or less encouraging youngsters to break the law if you continue in thie vein.

Thank you.

Great thanks for the wonderfully impersonal statistics. Ummm... I am not really sure how it started. I think that I posted a pic and pointed out that I was buzzed.
No one was saying (Cigarrette) smoking is good. But thanks for you story, it was beautiful and persuasive.
Smoking cigars is more the act of puffing, not inhaling. Not saying that it is any better, it's just different. Most of those smoking deaths come from lung cancer which is attributed to smoking (inhaling).
 
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when u say "buzzed"

PrinceCaspianwannabe said:
Great thanks for the wonderfully impersonal statistics. Ummm... I am not really sure how it started. I think that I posted a pic and pointed out that I was buzzed.
No one was saying (Cigarrette) smoking is good. But thanks for you story, it was beautiful and persuasive.
Smoking cigars is more the act of puffing, not inhaling. Not saying that it is any better, it's just different. Most of those smoking deaths come from lung cancer which is attributed to smoking (inhaling).
do u mean buzzed like u were almost drunk?????????? :confused:

funny.......... never would have thought of u like that, we should hang out sometime :D

gabe
 
It says that its 2 down for PC, I wonder who the two peoples are??
 
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