Keyblade Master
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yes and the fact that royal blood was in Carvahal like i acsidently posted in the wrong thread.
Skul
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The identity of who dies at the end of Brisingr
In the same interview that he announced Book IV, Christopher Paolini said, “Since I split Book III [Brisingr] into two books, I pondered for a long time on how to end Book III. The answer came up as the same solution I used to begin Eldest: with the death of a major character. I’m not going to say who…”
Obviously, this character is one that everybody loves and hates to have die. The options are fairly simple: Nasuada, Orik, Oromis and Glaedr, and—by an extremely complicated theory—Saphira.
Nasuada is the most likely. If she dies, then the Varden need a new leader for Book IV. The leader could be Elva or, more likely, Eragon.
Orik is also likely, though not as likely as Nasuada. The dwarves need a king, and Orik is the only option right now. So no, Orik will not die.
Oromis and Glaedr are right up there with Nasuada. It has been repeated throughout Eldest that they will die sometime, so why not at the end of Brisingr? The only theory against this is that Glaedr will appear on Brisingr’s cover, and it’d look bad for the cover character to die. However, considering Paolini’s plot, Oromis and Glaedr are extremely likely.
Please take the time to read my Fate of Saphira thread before looking any further.
Now, it is very likely that Saphira will be captured before the end of Brisingr. Why, you ask? In Eldest, Eragon murmured a spell: “Brakka du vanyalí sem huildar Saphira un eka!” Translated, “Reduce the magic that holds Saphira and me!” However, the word Huildar can be translated into two words: “Holds” or “Binds”. As he did with Elva, Eragon could very possibly have placed a curse on somebody instead of a blessing. This curse, however, would be directed at Saphira.
A completely different theory is in line for how Eragon and Saphira separate to begin with, but let me just narrow it down to Eragon getting awful mad. Saphira, heartbroken, feels she has no choice but to turn herself in to Galbatorix. This could very well take place before the end of Brisingr.
But, her dying at the end? That’s going too far. The only way for her to die is to save Eragon from dying, and Eragon would be saved from Galbatorix, who he would kill with that moment. That’s one too many people dying, and Paolini has said that only one person will die.
So, Saphira might be in captivity at the end of Brisingr, but we’ll have to wait for Book IV to see her die.
In the same interview that he announced Book IV, Christopher Paolini said, “Since I split Book III [Brisingr] into two books, I pondered for a long time on how to end Book III. The answer came up as the same solution I used to begin Eldest: with the death of a major character. I’m not going to say who…”
Obviously, this character is one that everybody loves and hates to have die. The options are fairly simple: Nasuada, Orik, Oromis and Glaedr, and—by an extremely complicated theory—Saphira.
Nasuada is the most likely. If she dies, then the Varden need a new leader for Book IV. The leader could be Elva or, more likely, Eragon.
Orik is also likely, though not as likely as Nasuada. The dwarves need a king, and Orik is the only option right now. So no, Orik will not die.
Oromis and Glaedr are right up there with Nasuada. It has been repeated throughout Eldest that they will die sometime, so why not at the end of Brisingr? The only theory against this is that Glaedr will appear on Brisingr’s cover, and it’d look bad for the cover character to die. However, considering Paolini’s plot, Oromis and Glaedr are extremely likely.
Please take the time to read my Fate of Saphira thread before looking any further.
Now, it is very likely that Saphira will be captured before the end of Brisingr. Why, you ask? In Eldest, Eragon murmured a spell: “Brakka du vanyalí sem huildar Saphira un eka!” Translated, “Reduce the magic that holds Saphira and me!” However, the word Huildar can be translated into two words: “Holds” or “Binds”. As he did with Elva, Eragon could very possibly have placed a curse on somebody instead of a blessing. This curse, however, would be directed at Saphira.
A completely different theory is in line for how Eragon and Saphira separate to begin with, but let me just narrow it down to Eragon getting awful mad. Saphira, heartbroken, feels she has no choice but to turn herself in to Galbatorix. This could very well take place before the end of Brisingr.
But, her dying at the end? That’s going too far. The only way for her to die is to save Eragon from dying, and Eragon would be saved from Galbatorix, who he would kill with that moment. That’s one too many people dying, and Paolini has said that only one person will die.
So, Saphira might be in captivity at the end of Brisingr, but we’ll have to wait for Book IV to see her die.
Keyblade Master
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now i have a theory, what becomes of Elva?
well it is possible that she will be killed in an assasination attempt on Nausda before Eragon has a chance to lift his curse, or if he does lift his curse then i have no clue, can some one help me out here?
well it is possible that she will be killed in an assasination attempt on Nausda before Eragon has a chance to lift his curse, or if he does lift his curse then i have no clue, can some one help me out here?
Keyblade Master
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and this is very far fetched, but just maby eragon might appoint roran as head of the varden if nausda dies. because of his leadership skills.
Keyblade Master
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i know but just a theory, i whant to keep an open mind.
Keyblade Master
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i am mutch like eragon in the way that i have many questions.
Keyblade Master
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yes are you getting the fealing that we are the only ones replying on these threads?
lizzielove
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I'm replying because I want to know his theory about Eragon and Saphira being separated.
Keyblade Master
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ok i will give you what Jack sent me.
dragonrider
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Do any of you think that Jeod will play a major role in the third book? I always thought he is a cool character.
Keyblade Master
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it is posible.
Skul
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The fates of Murtagh and Thorn
Both Murtagh and Thorn are forced under the ancient language to serve Galbatorix. Murtagh has said that there is no hope for either of them, because Galbatorix knows their true names.
However, their fates could go either way right now. Oromis told Eragon that there are ways to reduce spells, so that only a fraction of the spell’s power holds the person. So Eragon and Arya can reduce the spells that hold Murtagh and Thorn, and they become good guys.
The other theory is that Eragon will kill them. Murtagh will be forced to capture either Eragon or Saphira—or both—next time he sees them. Eragon must either capture Murtagh or Thorn instead, or kill them. Of the two, considering Paolini’s plot so far, capturing is the more likely candidate.
So, either theory is possible at this moment, and neither seems to be ahead of the other.
Both Murtagh and Thorn are forced under the ancient language to serve Galbatorix. Murtagh has said that there is no hope for either of them, because Galbatorix knows their true names.
However, their fates could go either way right now. Oromis told Eragon that there are ways to reduce spells, so that only a fraction of the spell’s power holds the person. So Eragon and Arya can reduce the spells that hold Murtagh and Thorn, and they become good guys.
The other theory is that Eragon will kill them. Murtagh will be forced to capture either Eragon or Saphira—or both—next time he sees them. Eragon must either capture Murtagh or Thorn instead, or kill them. Of the two, considering Paolini’s plot so far, capturing is the more likely candidate.
So, either theory is possible at this moment, and neither seems to be ahead of the other.
Skul
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The end of Book IV
Personally, I want you to think of it this way: if Murtagh if freed, then he’s a good guy again. If Greeni hatches for the Varden—popularly Arya—then that makes his dragon Number 2. Two for what, you ask?
Refer to Eragon, reasonably close to the beginning, in the chapter Deathwatch. A ship is docked. Two tall figures board with a few hundred more people, holding hands. Two dragons are in the sky. A man on the shore screams.
The man, apparently, is Roran, yelling in agony because Eragon is leaving Alagaësia forever. The two tall people, of course, are Eragon and Arya. Murtagh is probably on the ship already. The two dragons seem to be Greeni and Thorn.
But where’s Saphira? Well, a point has been roughly made in the first two books. The elves came from another country called Alalea. Glaedr and Oromis both said that elves do not believe in an afterlife, but in returning to their homeland. While this may be a little abstract, this Alalea might be paralleled to Heaven. And all good people go to Heaven.
So, if Saphira really did die saving Eragon, then she went to Heaven, or Alalea. And that is why Eragon must leave Alagaësia: to go and live with Saphira forever.
A part of Eldest I found recently saw Eragon having a dream: it was very muddled, but it began with him seeing a dragon on a distant island and ended with Murtagh pointing at Eragon mockingly. While the second part of the dream has come true, the first part is simple to decode: Saphira is expecting Eragon, and is on the shore to welcome him as he arrives from over the sea.
This means she gets to mate with Greeni or Thorn; she gets to choose now that she has options. Eragon and Arya live happily ever after, and Murtagh finds some girl he likes.
Meanwhile, in Alagaësia, Orik is the dwarf king, and Roran is the human king. The elves went over the sea with Eragon and Arya, so there are no elves anymore. The Urgals are peaceful creatures now, and the Ra’zac are, shall we say, toast.
All in all, everything will be, as Christopher Paolini told me, “Right in the end. I can’t tell you much, but I can tell you this: Eragon and Saphira will be closer in the end than ever before, and will become even closer in the eternity they will have together.”
Personally, I want you to think of it this way: if Murtagh if freed, then he’s a good guy again. If Greeni hatches for the Varden—popularly Arya—then that makes his dragon Number 2. Two for what, you ask?
Refer to Eragon, reasonably close to the beginning, in the chapter Deathwatch. A ship is docked. Two tall figures board with a few hundred more people, holding hands. Two dragons are in the sky. A man on the shore screams.
The man, apparently, is Roran, yelling in agony because Eragon is leaving Alagaësia forever. The two tall people, of course, are Eragon and Arya. Murtagh is probably on the ship already. The two dragons seem to be Greeni and Thorn.
But where’s Saphira? Well, a point has been roughly made in the first two books. The elves came from another country called Alalea. Glaedr and Oromis both said that elves do not believe in an afterlife, but in returning to their homeland. While this may be a little abstract, this Alalea might be paralleled to Heaven. And all good people go to Heaven.
So, if Saphira really did die saving Eragon, then she went to Heaven, or Alalea. And that is why Eragon must leave Alagaësia: to go and live with Saphira forever.
A part of Eldest I found recently saw Eragon having a dream: it was very muddled, but it began with him seeing a dragon on a distant island and ended with Murtagh pointing at Eragon mockingly. While the second part of the dream has come true, the first part is simple to decode: Saphira is expecting Eragon, and is on the shore to welcome him as he arrives from over the sea.
This means she gets to mate with Greeni or Thorn; she gets to choose now that she has options. Eragon and Arya live happily ever after, and Murtagh finds some girl he likes.
Meanwhile, in Alagaësia, Orik is the dwarf king, and Roran is the human king. The elves went over the sea with Eragon and Arya, so there are no elves anymore. The Urgals are peaceful creatures now, and the Ra’zac are, shall we say, toast.
All in all, everything will be, as Christopher Paolini told me, “Right in the end. I can’t tell you much, but I can tell you this: Eragon and Saphira will be closer in the end than ever before, and will become even closer in the eternity they will have together.”
Skul
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The final words of the Inheritance Cycle
This subject is open to a lot of possibilities. The options range from a sentence of togetherness to words of Eragon being the true Dragon Rider, from Roran saying something in Alagaësia to Arya saying something in Alalea.
However, one thing I noticed throughout the first two books is that Eragon always has the literal last word. In Eragon, he said to himself that he would, indeed, go to Oromis in Ellesméra. In Eldest, he told Roran he would help him free Katrina and kill the Ra’zac. If Paolini wrote Brisingr like I think he did, then Eragon will agree to go and rescue Saphira from Galbatorix.
But something else would be needed for Book IV. There is nothing more to do for Eragon, save live with Saphira forever. He has no obligations, no wishes, no promises…just his dragon. That might very well be the basis for the entire Inheritance Cycle: love.
From my point of view, it was out of Love that Saphira chose Eragon to be her Rider. It was out of Love that Brom decided to train Eragon, despite the risks. Love sent Eragon to rescue Arya from Gil’ead. Love saved Eragon from the clutches of Durza. Love trained Eragon in the form of Oromis. Love agreed to help Roran save Katrina. Love decided to go and save a captive dragon.
And Love never dies.
So, in theory, the entire Inheritance Cycle should be summed up in the final few paragraphs at the end of Book IV. Like the Chronicles of Narnia, and the Lord of the Rings, and the Star Wars Saga, the Inheritance Cycle is more than just a fantasy story: it’s a story about faith, courage, and ultimately Love.
So, to show that Saphira forgives Eragon for leaving her, the end of the Inheritance Cycle could very well be said in these few words—words I hope will leave the reader breathless with awe and wonder upon reading them, and closing this remarkable series of stories that brought us out of the Spine and into the country of Alalea, by way of soaring on dragons’ wings.
Eragon: I love you, Saphira.
Saphira: I love you too, little one.
This subject is open to a lot of possibilities. The options range from a sentence of togetherness to words of Eragon being the true Dragon Rider, from Roran saying something in Alagaësia to Arya saying something in Alalea.
However, one thing I noticed throughout the first two books is that Eragon always has the literal last word. In Eragon, he said to himself that he would, indeed, go to Oromis in Ellesméra. In Eldest, he told Roran he would help him free Katrina and kill the Ra’zac. If Paolini wrote Brisingr like I think he did, then Eragon will agree to go and rescue Saphira from Galbatorix.
But something else would be needed for Book IV. There is nothing more to do for Eragon, save live with Saphira forever. He has no obligations, no wishes, no promises…just his dragon. That might very well be the basis for the entire Inheritance Cycle: love.
From my point of view, it was out of Love that Saphira chose Eragon to be her Rider. It was out of Love that Brom decided to train Eragon, despite the risks. Love sent Eragon to rescue Arya from Gil’ead. Love saved Eragon from the clutches of Durza. Love trained Eragon in the form of Oromis. Love agreed to help Roran save Katrina. Love decided to go and save a captive dragon.
And Love never dies.
So, in theory, the entire Inheritance Cycle should be summed up in the final few paragraphs at the end of Book IV. Like the Chronicles of Narnia, and the Lord of the Rings, and the Star Wars Saga, the Inheritance Cycle is more than just a fantasy story: it’s a story about faith, courage, and ultimately Love.
So, to show that Saphira forgives Eragon for leaving her, the end of the Inheritance Cycle could very well be said in these few words—words I hope will leave the reader breathless with awe and wonder upon reading them, and closing this remarkable series of stories that brought us out of the Spine and into the country of Alalea, by way of soaring on dragons’ wings.
Eragon: I love you, Saphira.
Saphira: I love you too, little one.
Keyblade Master
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those are all very fine theroys, but i the post about jode made me think that because of his history with the Varden that maby just maby if Nausda was killed he would be leader of the varden??
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The wepon under the Menoa Tree
WOW i just got the crazest idea, the wepon under the Menoa Tree could be The true name of the Anciant language, that would mean that Eragon would have total controll of every thing and every one who uses the ancient language.
WOW i just got the crazest idea, the wepon under the Menoa Tree could be The true name of the Anciant language, that would mean that Eragon would have total controll of every thing and every one who uses the ancient language.