What are your fears about VODT?

BarbarianKing

BarbarianKing

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As we can see, details about the filming of this movie are beginning to come out, along with some pretty cool pictures.

So far everything looks good but I noticed that some of the pictures showed his "fishansy" Governor Gumpas at the harbor and there was Eustace in a boat. If you read the books, you know that this doesn't happen at all. Eustace has nothing to do with Gumpas. They don't even meet. And Gumpas never went to the harbor. So if they made this change already, who knows what other changes are there? I am afraid they will make something I will not recognize.

Some of us have already voiced our opinion (pro and con) about the changes to PC but what are your fears for this next movie? Do you have any? Do you not care if they make changes? What kind of changes would you hate the most? What if they make light or twist the Divinity of Aslan? What if they mishandle the romance between Ramandu's Daughter and Caspian, and how would they do it without making Caspian look like a player now?

Post your thoughts and comments here. Try not to argue, just state what you would like or not.

EDIT: I'm changing my siggy, so I'll post here the picture of what I think they got really wrong with the movie. Look at the comparison. I can't believe they did that. If anyone who sees this want's to comment, please do so in this very thread.
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Doesn't seem as it seems sometimes. ;) How do you know it was Gumpas? Could've been one of the last scenes in the movie for all we know; they don't film movies chronologically. Plus, those pictures were of the actors, but not necessarily acting. I've heard commentaries like Braveheart, where Mel Gibson, dressed in full costume, was directing Longshanks and his son in the castle, because right afterward they'd be shooting something with Wallace's character.

So we really have no idea if the pics were of Gumpas. And even if they were, we don't know those were pics of an actual scene in the movie; these are just production photos. We can't judge anything now, it's too soon.
 
You know, you are right. It might not be Gumpas, which I really hope it isn't. I only said it was Gumpas because that was what the captions on the pictures said. I am actually hoping it was Pug because that would make it more in line with the story.
 
Ah...

...Well, maybe it was Gumpas. :eek: Still though, it could've just been a "Hi, how're you doin'?" moment/getting-to-know-you meeting between them, makin' themselves buddies or something. :)
 
I the video they showed (one of the threads of Narniafans News) Eustance actually smacks him with the oar!! I don't think they would be buddies after!!!:D
 
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I think it showed Grumpus if it was him at the slave fair i may be wrong but im not toworried at the mo and in another flim i have seen recantly there were a few changes from the book bu it didn ruin the film. Well i don't think it did.
 
i'm scared that they'll totally wierd out the Caspian/Ramandu's daughter thing.... Like think abou it it's like one movie he like susan and the other one he's marrying so other woman. What are lucy and Edmund supposed to do about that? just act like nothing happened? :mad: i never liked the Suspian thing
 
I'm aprehensive. I hope they won't mess up Dawn Treader like they did PC. But there are some different people working on it, so maybe it'll go better.... thats what my mom and I hope anyway.;):D

I don't see how too many changes in Dawn Treader could even be made. The story line is strict and if you change one little thing, it'll usually have an effect elsewhere in the movie. So if they want to make Dawn Treader good and like the book then they have to follow the book pretty much.

'Tis what I think.:)
 
Mozart the Meerkitten said:
I'm aprehensive. I hope they won't mess up Dawn Treader like they did PC. But there are some different people working on it, so maybe it'll go better.... thats what my mom and I hope anyway.;):D

I don't see how too many changes in Dawn Treader could even be made. The story line is strict and if you change one little thing, it'll usually have an effect elsewhere in the movie. So if they want to make Dawn Treader good and like the book then they have to follow the book pretty much.

'Tis what I think.:)
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Yeah i totally agree like since they kinda messed up PC a bit it will effect VDT a bit too and who knows it could turn into a cycle of madness from book readers
 
Okay, first off: guys have crushes/admirations on girls. Caspian was a young man, face-to-face with a beautiful monarch from the past (Susan). As Anna and Ben have both said in interviews, the whole "romance" thing was simply a crush, nothing that would last. If you look at the world around you, you would see that plenty of guys kiss girls and then move on. What Susan did (kiss Caspian) at the end of the film was she was simply saying goodbye; there was no romantic involvement there, because there is a difference between romance, and puppy love (which is what Caspian and Susan had). Wouldn't you have a crush on a guy like Ben? And, did you notice, that Susan was VERY disappointed in both him and PEter when they nearly gave into the Witch in that scene in PC? She stalked off angrily. I don't believe there was any real romance, because otherwise, Susan would've been all teary-eyed over leaving Narnia, and she wasn't. I think she also kissed Caspian to give him closure to the fact that she and her sibilings were leaving and never coming back. So, to wrap up this 1st paragraph, there should be no problem with Caspian and Ramandu's Daughter because it's been 3 years, enough time for Caspian to "get over" Susan.

Now, I have no fears for VoDT, mainly because I dont' know exactly what is going on with the script. Truman made some great points; it might not actually be a scene, but just something to keep people guessing, or a backup scene (See post in the Pictures from narrowhaven and the Spit in the news forum), as done with Susan and Caspian's archery contest in PC (eventually cut from the movie). There were 2 versions of one scene filmed in case one didn't work. Could be what happens here. However, it looks pretty much like Gumpas in the stills. Just from comparing his costumes in one photo to another, it looks a lot like him.

Well, let me correct my 2nd paragraph; actually I do have one fear. That they'll leave out one or both scenes (In their entirety): the scene between Eustace and Aslan, and the end scene between the Pevensies, Eustace and Aslan. Other than that, I trust the filmmakers completely. ;)
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
Okay, first off: guys have crushes/admirations on girls. Caspian was a young man, face-to-face with a beautiful monarch from the past (Susan). As Anna and Ben have both said in interviews, the whole "romance" thing was simply a crush, nothing that would last. If you look at the world around you, you would see that plenty of guys kiss girls and then move on. What Susan did (kiss Caspian) at the end of the film was she was simply saying goodbye; there was no romantic involvement there, because there is a difference between romance, and puppy love (which is what Caspian and Susan had). Wouldn't you have a crush on a guy like Ben? And, did you notice, that Susan was VERY disappointed in both him and PEter when they nearly gave into the Witch in that scene in PC? She stalked off angrily. I don't believe there was any real romance, because otherwise, Susan would've been all teary-eyed over leaving Narnia, and she wasn't. I think she also kissed Caspian to give him closure to the fact that she and her sibilings were leaving and never coming back. So, to wrap up this 1st paragraph, there should be no problem with Caspian and Ramandu's Daughter because it's been 3 years, enough time for Caspian to "get over" Susan.

Now, I have no fears for VoDT, mainly because I dont' know exactly what is going on with the script. Truman made some great points; it might not actually be a scene, but just something to keep people guessing, or a backup scene (See post in the Pictures from narrowhaven and the Spit in the news forum), as done with Susan and Caspian's archery contest in PC (eventually cut from the movie). There were 2 versions of one scene filmed in case one didn't work. Could be what happens here. However, it looks pretty much like Gumpas in the stills. Just from comparing his costumes in one photo to another, it looks a lot like him.

Well, let me correct my 2nd paragraph; actually I do have one fear. That they'll leave out one or both scenes (In their entirety): the scene between Eustace and Aslan, and the end scene between the Pevensies, Eustace and Aslan. Other than that, I trust the filmmakers completely. ;)
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Completly agree with you well said
 
Skandarluver4eva said:
i'm scared that they'll totally wierd out the Caspian/Ramandu's daughter thing.... Like think abou it it's like one movie he like susan and the other one he's marrying so other woman. What are lucy and Edmund supposed to do about that? just act like nothing happened? :mad: i never liked the Suspian thing
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You are right about the Suspian thing regarding Lucy and Edmund. What kind of example is now Caspian for young Lucy and for Edmund? You can kiss whoever just because you are young? That's stupid.

Aravis Kenobi said:
Okay, first off: guys have crushes/admirations on girls. Caspian was a young man, face-to-face with a beautiful monarch from the past (Susan). As Anna and Ben have both said in interviews, the whole "romance" thing was simply a crush, nothing that would last. If you look at the world around you, you would see that plenty of guys kiss girls and then move on. What Susan did (kiss Caspian) at the end of the film was she was simply saying goodbye; there was no romantic involvement there, because there is a difference between romance, and puppy love (which is what Caspian and Susan had). Wouldn't you have a crush on a guy like Ben? And, did you notice, that Susan was VERY disappointed in both him and PEter when they nearly gave into the Witch in that scene in PC? She stalked off angrily. I don't believe there was any real romance, because otherwise, Susan would've been all teary-eyed over leaving Narnia, and she wasn't. I think she also kissed Caspian to give him closure to the fact that she and her sibilings were leaving and never coming back. So, to wrap up this 1st paragraph, there should be no problem with Caspian and Ramandu's Daughter because it's been 3 years, enough time for Caspian to "get over" Susan.
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In the normal earthly (as opposed to spiritual) teen world of today, this makes a lot of sense, and it happens all the time. However, events in the story depicts characters who were honorable and had a sense of duty and responsibility and knew their places. Many teens today don't have a clue what honor and duty means, so these puppy loves are common amongst them. It should have never happened between Susan and Caspian (actually, it never happened in the real story, only in the heads of those silly moviemakers). But anyway, I just hope it doesn't happen again.
 
Sopespian said:
About which animals are you concerned?
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Probably Reep mainly. And possibly the owls and things at the very beginning.

What I don't want to see messed up is the critical scene at the end with the Lion/Lamb. My worst fear would be they make Aslan some kind of "universal" God rather than the Lamb of God ... I would rather they leave that scene out entirely than to try to make Aslan be a generic God.
 
Oh, the dragon! I can't wait to see that. And the sea serpent.

I got to thinking, I don't really care if they change minor points in the story, like if Gumpas should be a more formidable enemy than he is in the book, and Eustace gets some of the action of taking back the island -- that stuff, I think would be cool and interesting.

If they change points like that, which might make the movie more adventurous, I'm good with it. What I don't want is any change to what I think of as the spiritual themes, particularly the divinity of Aslan, and the nature of the characters. I hope the characters' natures remain as they are in the book.

Eustace is enough of a bad boy for this film. We don't need anyone else to get out of line.
 
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