Apolo's Trial

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*To Elf* There was no queen in the throne of Cair Paravel, and the throne has not been occupied for many long years.

*To KingAslanofNarnia* I have already stated, it was not my place to interfere. One could easily discern that a duel (or several) had been taking place.
 
I have not changed my mind in any matter. The laws of Narnia demand that one answer for unfair dueling. Just as the High King Peter engaged in fair dueling with the usurper Miraz, and the usurper Miraz fell to the ground, his strength spent, the High King dared not stab Miraz in the back. Any of us who claims association with Narnia will recognize the laws that have stood in this realm for many long years.

When one, in using mysterious powers, proceeds to do such a thing, he becomes guilty of breaching every fair rule of dueling according to the laws of Narnia. Narnia has brought him to this trial for the sake of justice.
 
Good judges, am I permitted to ask a question? (I promise to be polite, and not get into sordid, we're the right rulers of Narnia, etc. debates)

I would like to ask him whether he is sure that Apolo, and the rest of us, including his Rangers knew these rules of fair dueling? We pirate's don't come from Narnia, and niether do his Rangers. Just because Peter did it doesn't mean we'll automatically know that it's the right thing to do.
 
Curumo said:
I have not changed my mind in any matter. The laws of Narnia demand that one answer for unfair dueling. Just as the High King Peter engaged in fair dueling with the usurper Miraz, and the usurper Miraz fell to the ground, his strength spent, the High King dared not stab Miraz in the back. Any of us who claims association with Narnia will recognize the laws that have stood in this realm for many long years.

When one, in using mysterious powers, proceeds to do such a thing, he becomes guilty of breaching every fair rule of dueling according to the laws of Narnia. Narnia has brought him to this trial for the sake of justice.
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*JK walks back into the courtroom, wiping blood off of his sleeve*
Unlike ye Rangers, us pirates don't learn every rule of duelin' from tales. We like to be told--Apolo was not, and therefore not at fault.
 
Good point. But there are a few other points. For one, You will concede that the Pirates are not technically Narnian? Also, they are Pirates. You can't expect them to have a knowledge of the rules of fair dueling, they hardly ever need them. (This entire case my lie in the hands of the argument: wether man has a built-in moral instinct)
On a different tack, you know now that the pirate was acting in the heat of the moment, and he repented immediately afterward. He was, I believe, reacting to losing his hand.
 
Jimmy, this is an order, stop interrupting people! You're not really helping the trial. You will get a chance to share your viewpoints. Contradicting everything he says may be fun and satisfying, and I'm not saying you aren't right in your views, but it just makes us look too hasty and like we aren't listening. I hope you can see that.
 
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Curumo said:
None save the judges may pose questions in this trial.
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Curumo, where does it say that in the rules? Or where are the rules? I realize why you're doing this, to keep things more organized, but what this looks like (I'm NOT saying this is what it is) is that you keep making up more rules when people do silly things. Posting where the rules for this trial are would help a lot I think.

Edit: Oops, sorry about double posting, I didn't mean to. :eek:
 
Order, please. If there is a question, PM it to me, and I will ask it oficially.
EDIT: Sorry, my inbox was full. If you need, try again, I've cleaned it.
 
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Elf Of The Grey Havens said:
Good point. But there are a few other points. For one, You will concede that the Pirates are not technically Narnian? Also, they are Pirates. You can't expect them to have a knowledge of the rules of fair dueling, they hardly ever need them. (This entire case my lie in the hands of the argument: wether man has a built-in moral instinct)
On a different tack, you know now that the pirate was acting in the heat of the moment, and he repented immediately afterward. He was, I believe, reacting to losing his hand.
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Such grounds, however, and your lordship must concede, do not offer fair reason for Apolo to have gone and stabbed someone in the back by utilizing some mysterious method to aid him to do it. Even in the heat of battle a captain or a soldier must keep their heads if they are to succeed. The point is not that he assayed to mend the error. The point is that he committed the error, and did so consciously. Else he would not have had the heart to repent.

The Pirates tread on lands that do not belong to them. They have no proof to say that the Rangers have not long been citizens of this country and of Archenland, whereas we know with certainty that they are aliens here.

The fact that laws have been established in any given place declares that a code of morality exists. If man, understanding and grasping the concept of morality, can by clear understanding of right and wrong establish laws and codes thereby, there remains no excuse for any man save his own denial and his own foolishness. If the argument becomes that a man has not a conscience within him, Apolo the cook would not have sought to repent and mend the error.

He is here on trial to answer for the clearly established error.
 
So we come up with one thing, and I say this hoping to offend no one: Apolo is stupid.
But I would like to point something out. The Pirates were given amnesty by the Knights. You claim to have essentially banished the Knights from the land. Thus, you should have either kept the promise of amnesty, or let them leave, correct? But from what I have heard, you actually burned their ship, so that the could not leave. Is this correct?
 
*QA48 looks around desperate. Her feet are shaking uncontrollably as she knows she can't ask any questions looking at JK hoping he would ask all the questions she wants ask*

May I just say something? It doesn't make sence that us judges are not allowed to ask the questions that need to be asked! There must be a time in which he or she will be able to voice out his or her concerns!
 
My dear QA48, have you the impression that you may not ask questions? You are a judge, you are allowed to speak. Only the spectators and planned witnesses must hold silence for the proceedings.
 
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