Discuss the White Witches in BBC and Walden

Tilda did a fantastic job playing Jadis. I thought that Barbara did not have the icy cold look. The witch is supposed to be icy, that is why she is the White Witch. Barbara seemed more like a dark witch then an icy one. And even the witches house in BBC was not icy at all, where as in Walden Media the witches house looks like one big iceberg. Plus as everyone has said before BBC Jadis was over the top. The way she got mad at the Narnians even the way she handled the wand and summuned her troops. I think Jadis was beleivable and if you went to Narnia the witch would be like her. Overall its Jadis who was better. No affence Barbara if you see this.
 
I felt like the White Witch in the BBC version was over dramatic and yelled all the time. She did have some good qualities but I think Tilda did a better job than the BBC person.
 
Tilda was good at being intimidating, but when I first saw it I thought her delivery of lines wasn't the most convincing. (The WW does yell in the LWW book, quite often actually, though I am beginning to understand the change regarding that.) The BBC witch (Barbara) looked horrific, but she was much closer to the book in action and how she said things.)

I actually LIKED the way Tilda used her wand vs. the BBC version. While the book does have the WW using her wand from a distance (the small Christmas party that was taken out of the movie in favor of using the Beaver's friends and the fox), having her have that much power during the battle would have been difficult to rationalize. For example, in the book she has that power, yet she doesn't (or isn't capable of for some reason) turning Peter or Edmund to stone during the Battle. While it would have messed up the storyline, you have to look at it from a rational mindset--if she COULD have, why didn't she? With Tilda, they remove the need for that thinking by making the wand work ONLY WHEN IT TOUCHES, making it impossible for her to turn the entire army into stone.

I'm not sure Lewis fully thought out her power with the wand, or just didn't care to flesh it out, because this rationale is not considered in the book.

Tilda was much friendlier looking to Edmund than the BBC WW and spoke/acted "friendlier" (soft-spoken, non-threatening in tone even when she was threatening, though only to Edmund)--even when she was clearly evil--and Walden went with the idea that the witch was capable of incredible deceit while not LOOKING entirely dangerous at first. The BBC stuck close to Lewis' description of the witch and her actions/words, but not so much into how she would appear to a child in the woods, no matter how irritable and self-serving the child may be.
 
The witch in the BBC version was loud angry and sinister, and the one in the new LWW was quiet angry and sinsister. The latter is how I've imagined the white witch as being, as she uses cunning and treachery to get what she wants in the stories. I thought Tilda did an excellent job playing the part (even if the white witch is supposed to have black hair, and not blond lol)
 
You're both right I suppose. The two actresses used two different ways to portray Jadis' evilness. I, however, like Elentari, prefer the BBC version way. I know it's a bit ham fisted and over dramatic, but Tilda's a little too bland for my liking. Particularly on her first meeting with Edmund, when she gets angry and shouts 'NO', it's not very believable in the Walden but used to frigthen me as a kid when our Barbs did it!
 
Well, I didn`t think Edmund would want to hang out with someone who seemed scary lol. What I liked about Tilda is that she could pretend to act friendly and stuff to lure Edmund in to her plan. I respect all of your opinions though.
 
waterhogboy said:
You're both right I suppose. The two actresses used two different ways to portray Jadis' evilness. I, however, like Elentari, prefer the BBC version way. I know it's a bit ham fisted and over dramatic, but Tilda's a little too bland for my liking. Particularly on her first meeting with Edmund, when she gets angry and shouts 'NO', it's not very believable in the Walden but used to frigthen me as a kid when our Barbs did it!
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Exactly! When Barbara said No! you could tell she was showing who she REALLY was, because she had to catch herself and turn all sugary..."no no no..." With Tilda, though she was amazing, her attempt at a yell was just not convincing. Her EYES freaked me out the last time I watched it though. I don't think I ever noticed they were almost yellow...:eek:
 
office said:
Well, I didn`t think Edmund would want to hang out with someone who seemed scary lol. What I liked about Tilda is that she could pretend to act friendly and stuff to lure Edmund in to her plan. I respect all of your opinions though.
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I don't know. I think it makes the effect stronger. Edmund is lured in in the BBC versions purely by his greed for Turkish Delight and his desire to be a Prince. It makes the betrayal all the more disgusting. In the Walden you could almost say, "Well, he didn't really know what he was getting himself into!" In the book, it never suggests the White Witch is nice, just attractive and appealing to Edmund in that sense.
 
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I personally really liked the BBC versions I suppose it's because I grew up watching them I guess I need to watch them again to really give an opinion
 
Into the Wardrobe said:
There are threads to compare and contrast the kids, but I thought I'd start one for the White Witch.

I thought that the BBC witch was done in way too large of a manner, but still the story came across well. My little nieces responded more to that white witch than Tilda's. She also looked closer to what the book describes her as. However, I still thought that Tilda did a good job as well. She played the witch in more of a controlled manner. She was incredible in the battle scenes.

What do you all think?
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The BBC white which was over the top. I remember the scene when she arrives at aslans camp, she like screams her parts, like the bits when she says "And NARNIA WILL BE OVERTURNED IN FIRE AND WATWE!!!!!!!!"
or whatever lol. But tilda was totally awsome as the white which
 
dayhawk68 said:
lol I watched LWW today. lol why did they have to make Lucy fat???:mad:
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Ok fist, Lucy's not fat at all !!! she's just a cute little girl in LWW.

to come back tot the thread about the White Witch, I thought Tilda was very scary, the one in the BBC version was just different, but Tilda was sooo WOW:eek:
 
well I meant it in the bbc version, but yeah Georgie was adorable!

and I think Tilda was amazing too. But idk I think Lucy Lawless would be an awesome Jadis.
 
well, we can't talk about the white witch anymore, because I'm sure Tilda will take the part of the white witch in MN,

ooh sorry you meant in the BBC version:p because I love Georgie in LWW, but I was a little dispointed of her in PC, she wasn't the sweet innocent little girl, and I didn't like it.

And I don't think Lucy Lawless would have been a good white witch, at least not as good as tilda:p
 
lol its all good, but I don't know about Lucy staying innocent. I mean I've always imagined she kept the tender heart but as she grew older became wiser but at the same time not jaded. I think that was what she was in PC.

And if you've ever seen some Xena episodes where she's like crazy evil looking, well it makes sense. Plus I've always imagined Jadis with black hair and freakishly high cheekbones (what is it w/ me and cheek bones 2 day??:confused:). So thats why I mentioned Lucy Lawless.
 
Let's stay on topic for discussing the white witch as opposed to Xena. We saw enough of her kind of character in Susan in PC. The witch in the BBC version did have the black hair and high cheek bones. She just acted in too large a manner, but she was a lot more frightening than Tilda was.

I'm sure Tilda will play in MN if they make that one. Time will tell.
 
dayhawk meant to show us the white witch he/she imagined,
I hope tilda will be the white witch in MN, but she'll probably be too old if it's in 10 years !!:eek:
 
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