Do you think Susan ever made it to Aslan's Country?

Do you think Susan ever made it to Aslan's country?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 64.3%

  • No

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Total voters
    14
Mister Lewis warned us against assuming that the content of a book directly reflects the author's personality. But Mister Lewis' personality did have an effect. Throughout the years in which he wrote the Chronicles, he had not yet had his experience as a stepfather. While not wishing any ill to children, and although he certainly remembered his own childhood vividly, he simply wasn't placing much emotional emphasis upon the idea of posterity in the Chronicles OR in the Space Trilogy.
 
Well, again, this reflects Mister Lewis' non-interest in marriage and child-making at the time he wrote. Probably also narrative convenience. If any of the Pevensie siblings had become parents during the "Golden Age," it would have become a sticky matter for them to LEAVE the Narnian world.
 
The second half of Copperfox's argument is probably the right answer. Marriage and children would have been very complicating when it came to where they BELONGED. Look at Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame...what did Mole and River Rat...or for that matter Mr. Badger...do for a living? And they were unmarried. As was Mr. Toad. Imagine how having a Mrs. Toad would have complicated his spending the family fortune on a motorcar or horse cart. Yeah. Or Mole leaving his house to go exploring. Yeah.
 
I think a lot of them not marrying was for convenience and not making things muddled but it was also a children's tale so the marrying and doing grown-up things was not important to the story.
 
No. And I'm grateful to Lewis for only giving us one such character. One we came to know and love who turned away. In life there will be many more.

Even when in Narnia Susan had troubles with pride and peevishness in PC when Lucy was trying to get them to follow invisible Aslan. Even there she knew but refused to believe, and even gave Lucy a hard time about it. How much worse when she was back home, and started to care only for lipsticks and the like.

At the risk of taking this one too deep:
Hebrews 6:4-6
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

Yikes. Judas walked with Jesus. How much hope is there for Susan?🤷🏽‍♀️
 
lillyanyway said:
No. And I'm grateful to Lewis for only giving us one such character. One we came to know and love who turned away. In life there will be many more.

Even when in Narnia Susan had troubles with pride and peevishness in PC when Lucy was trying to get them to follow invisible Aslan. Even there she knew but refused to believe, and even gave Lucy a hard time about it. How much worse when she was back home, and started to care only for lipsticks and the like.

At the risk of taking this one too deep:
Hebrews 6:4-6
For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

Yikes. Judas walked with Jesus. How much hope is there for Susan?🤷🏽‍♀️
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How much hope is there for Susan? She has the same amount of hope as there was for the Apostle, Peter, who denied Christ three times (gee, that sounds kind of familiar, like Susan in LWW, PC, and LB) and then repented. She also has the same amount of hope as there was for Edmund who betrayed his siblings and Aslan. Judas despaired, he did not have the heart in him to repent and seek forgiveness; Susan, at the time of her family's death, might have been at the same point as Judas was but since she lived she had plenty of time to get past the despair and turn back to faith.
 
Readers PARTICIPATE in a story where invited to do so. You are invited to participate in the Chronicles of Narnia by everything left to your imagination. If you think she was saved, you're absolutely right. If you think she was not saved, you're absolutely right. As for what I think and feel, I remember the rich man whom Jesus lauded and asked to sell everything, give to the poor, and follow him. But the rich man went away sorrowful for he had great possessions. That's not to say he died and went to hell, but he missed the chance to become one of Jesus' disciples, possibly an Apostle, and possibly the author of a book of the New Testament. Which is a big deal. I believe Susan made it to Aslan's country, but on her track record as a upper middle class woman who was pretty when she was young and married a prosperous dentist from Kent only to have her youngest son become an artist whom "nobody understands".
 
I believe that Susan does make it. However, if she continues on the path that is described at the end of TLB, she may end up like the dwarves. Within Aslan's County but not recognizing it as such.
 
“I am telling you your story, not hers. No one is told any story but their own.”

I look at the stories through a Christian lens, which without a doubt Lewis wrote it under. The true Narnia is heaven, the Narnia it was meant to be before evil/sin was brought into it, much like our own. Having her siblings all die would certainly be a trying thing for anyone, and causes many to question God or even push them further away in anger and grief. Imagining it I would hope she would find solace in God/Aslan and realize there was the only peace, comfort, joy, she could ever want and need.
 
wonderings said:
“I am telling you your story, not hers. No one is told any story but their own.”

I look at the stories through a Christian lens, which without a doubt Lewis wrote it under. The true Narnia is heaven, the Narnia it was meant to be before evil/sin was brought into it, much like our own. Having her siblings all die would certainly be a trying thing for anyone, and causes many to question God or even push them further away in anger and grief. Imagining it I would hope she would find solace in God/Aslan and realize there was the only peace, comfort, joy, she could ever want and need.
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I think that's true, we don't know if Susan made it or didn't make it. it all depends on if she gave her life to Jesus Christ Lord and savior.
 
I have something that might make you stop and think. Three of the Pevensies stayed loyal to Aslan and they learned his other name in our world. What exactly did Susan do that was worse than lipstick and nylons? I'll tell you, and it's lurking right there in The Horse and His Boy.

She was ready to marry a Calormen Prince because he had power, money, good looks, and charm. It did not seem to bother her AT ALL that he believed Tash was Lord of the Universe and thought Aslan a foolish myth. It never seemed to cross her mind what religion her children would be raised to respect. Not hear about Aslan, and absolutely not hear about a Jewish carpenter's son who reunited heaven and earth by bringing the Godhead itself to the Cross.

Right there, she's taking religion lightly, and in a world full of miraculous signs and wonders. But it's worse...

Aslan died to save her brother. DIED TO SAVE HER BROTHER. Literally died. Horribly. And having done so, she denied him the way Peter denied Christ. And the way back is for her to be confronted by the risen Christ and be asked, "Do you love me?" If so, feed my lambs.

I think it was necessary for Susan to be left behind. Not for eternal punishment, but to force her to come to terms with the importance of her apostasy. I personally believe she did return to the fold, and since by now she would have died of old age, If she were 16 in LWW, she'd be 100 now. So I'm sure she's with THEM on the other side. But I don't think it was easy for her, and I think that's because she didn't let God take her the easy way, so he had to show severe mercy. Peter was asked three times by Christ if he loved him. Finally Peter broke down. Lord, YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU!! That's one avowal to undo each of his three disavowals. Susan too had do do her avowal, probably at the grave of her family. Not because Aslan was rubbing her grief in, but so he could love her together with them for eternity.
 
"She was ready to marry a Calormen Prince because he had power, money, good looks, and charm. It did not seem to bother her AT ALL that he believed Tash was Lord of the Universe and thought Aslan a foolish myth. It never seemed to cross her mind what religion her children would be raised to respect. Not hear about Aslan, and absolutely not hear about a Jewish carpenter's son who reunited heaven and earth by bringing the Godhead itself to the Cross."

Susan was merely taken to Rabadash while he visited Narnia when he was acting with humility and courtesy. It was that part of him she fell for. And there are people IRL who get married outside of their religion who don't consider the ramifications of what religion their potential children would grow up in. Do keep in mind the Pevensies were pursued by many kings, queens, princes, and princesses, none of whom they married. We are not given any reason why they declined any of them other than this specific suitor for Susan. Although personally, I imagined maybe Edmund and Lucy each found someone and with Lucy even having a child or two.
 
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