Jill's and Eustace

I agree with that. If they had lived long enough it could have happened. But then they died and went to, basicly, Heaven.
 
I draw comfort from the Harry Potter movies. Even though the actors are entering their twenties, they are still playing teenagers, and the brilliant art of makeup and clothing can be used to the advantage of the story line. If this goes in the SC screenwriter's mind and slips out the other ear I will be sorely mad. A relationship between Jill and Eustace would be sickening in the least. That is not what C. S. Lewis would have wanted and I hope Douglas Greshem realizes that though I doubt that will happen seeing what he let slide in PC. C. S. Lewis showed with little effort that a friendship without angsty crushes et cetera is possible. When you do have a friendship of that sort you can take each other down a few notches without 'hurting the other's feelings' like Lewis demonstrated in his book.

Jill and Eustace are supposed to be 16 in TLB. Hopefully if they do nod at romance they will wait 'till LB when they are supposed to be older.

The current age and look of the actors will not change that they are playing 10 year olds in the Silver Chair and at that age, normal people of the era didn't worry about silly things like romance. The girl took a pepermint offered her and didn't suspect it meant the boy handing it to her was interested in her!

As for using the original cast in The Last Battle...that just won't happen! If Disney is lucky enough to get to make that film, they will in no way shape or form use any of the original cast! It is probably somewhere around ten years off by the time they get to that film, and all of them are still supposed to be children in The Last Battle. By that time Will and Anna will be going on 30, Skandar will be 25, and Georgie and Will Poulter will be in their early 20's! They just can't pull it off with the original cast!
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Actually, excluding Will Poulter, the rest of them will be the appropriate ages for TLB. They are most definitely in adulthood by TLB.
 
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I don't think they should put it in the movies. I'm agreeing on that. But it's just one of those things that could be put into fanfic.
 
relationships...

Honestly, I wouldn't like it if in The Silver Chair they had Eustace and Jill having odd romantic side glances every two seconds like they did with Caspian and Susan. That would completely and totally contradict the book. I think it should be kept as a friend thing, with Jill being annoyed by Eustace and vice versa. I can't see it working any other way.... it just doesnt... feel right... if that's even the right way to put it :confused:.
However, I agree with a lot of you that maybe in the Last Battle the scene where they all have to walk in the stable (or were about to die one way or another) they add a little romance to it, since they both know they are going to die and everything (might as well die being kissed instead of die never kissing anyone :p) So yeah, I hope Disney doesn't mess with that the way they did with Prince Caspian.
 
"Okay", yes, but "Brilliant", "Inspired", or even "Great", absolutely not. There is a tease of what could develop into romance by the standards of Aravis and Cor; it is more admiration for the talents of each other than anything else even in TLB. That could be explained by the fact that they are just really good friends, or it could be the development of what would have become romance had they lived longer. I was just "okay" with the fact that they tampered with the storyline of PC (forget about the really contraversial stuff) and pretty bummed about all the contraversial stuff. I would be fine with a kiss on the cheek and a "Bye Pole(Scrubb), I hope we make it through this." That would be normal and appropriate, no giant lip-locking kiss that would just ruin it.
 
"LB does take place after Lucy and Ed are both out of school. By modern standards, at least 18-19, I always figured that Eustace and Jill were seniors in highschool with Lucy just graduated or even a year out from it"

Lava, as some here know, I very much disagree with TLB timeline. If Lucy was 18-years-old, then explain why Peter is described as "hardly full grown" and "certainly younger than Tirian himself" when Tirian was described as 20-25-years old? Both of these descriptions were from when Tirian first saw the Friends seated around the table while he was tied up to the tree.

I would say that it would still not be appropriate to have a big romantic kiss even in TLB. That would be like saying "Well, since we are about to die. I just want to let you know that I love you. I only told you this because the fear of death makes me not so afraid of what They would say or who would laugh at me."

Lava, I said that a kiss during TLB would be fine simply because there would be no chance of a relationship afterwards. Of course, it would need to be at just the right time and not, as you mentioned, cliched as the last kiss before everything ends.

MrBob
 
~Lava~ said:
"Okay", yes, but "Brilliant", "Inspired", or even "Great", absolutely not. There is a tease of what could develop into romance by the standards of Aravis and Cor; it is more admiration for the talents of each other than anything else even in TLB. That could be explained by the fact that they are just really good friends, or it could be the development of what would have become romance had they lived longer. I was just "okay" with the fact that they tampered with the storyline of PC (forget about the really contraversial stuff) and pretty bummed about all the contraversial stuff. I would be fine with a kiss on the cheek and a "Bye Pole(Scrubb), I hope we make it through this." That would be normal and appropriate, no giant lip-locking kiss that would just ruin it.
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I agree, no giant controversial kiss like in PC. A sweet, quick, cheek to cheek thing is fine.
 
yeah, and i remebered in the LB, lucy, Peter, and Edmund were described as 'great kings and queens', so they are obviously described as adults when they arrived in the real Narnia.
 
Mr. Bob, you mistake me, I am very wary of any timelines that have been issued. I took the part about Lu and Ed being out of school directly from the text of TLB: "'we're the only two who are still at school and we're at the same one.'"(This quote is from the chapter "How Help Came to the King" in The Last Battle; Eustace is telling Tirian how he and Jill got to Narnia this time). Most particularly, I despise the timeline that came out in the Seven book Tie-in book; it was said to be "Lewis-Originated" and "newly released" but it still places Ed at two years older than Lu which is in direct conflict with Lewis's own words.
 
"I took the part about Lu and Ed being out of school directly from the text of TLB: "'we're the only two who are still at school and we're at the same one.'"(This quote is from the chapter "How Help Came to the King" in The Last Battle; Eustace is telling Tirian how he and Jill got to Narnia this time)."

Lava, I just can't remember who thinks what regarding the timeline of the top of my head :) Regarding the quote you cited, I tend to think that maybe Experiment House just had a later start and later end than Lucy's and Edmund's schools. If that was the case, then they would still be in school while the others were out for summer.

It would also make sense in what Aslan says at the very end of TLB: "The term is over: the holidays have begun." With them still school age, and Lucy asks Aslan the question which he is responding to, that statement would make sense.

MrBob
 
MrBob said:
"I took the part about Lu and Ed being out of school directly from the text of TLB: "'we're the only two who are still at school and we're at the same one.'"(This quote is from the chapter "How Help Came to the King" in The Last Battle; Eustace is telling Tirian how he and Jill got to Narnia this time)."

Lava, I just can't remember who thinks what regarding the timeline of the top of my head :) Regarding the quote you cited, I tend to think that maybe Experiment House just had a later start and later end than Lucy's and Edmund's schools. If that was the case, then they would still be in school while the others were out for summer.

It would also make sense in what Aslan says at the very end of TLB: "The term is over: the holidays have begun." With them still school age, and Lucy asks Aslan the question which he is responding to, that statement would make sense.
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As I am not familiar with what a "school age" is in England--or was during the setting of the story--I won't assume it's the same in the US (I have a feeling not). At what age would someone be out of regular school? I agree with Mr. Bob that Experiment House probably ran a different schedule, but I guess what this discussion all comes down to is HOW OLD IS LUCY?

Just a thought, but when I read other books set in England or Canada, students go to what I will call "regular" school till they're about 16, then college for a year or 2, then on to the university. If we assume this model with Lucy, Eustace, and Jill, then would it be accurate to assume that Lucy is attending college while Eustace and Jill are still at "regular" school? As Peter and Edmund would be out of school, possibly they could be attending the university. (Wasn't Peter being tutored by the professor or studying for some kind of exams at the beginning of Voyage?) College and regular school probably run different schedules, having Lucy "out" on holiday first. This makes more sense than going to 2 different regular schools with different schedules.

Someone who knows the English school system please correct me! :D
 
Regarding the quote you cited, I tend to think that maybe Experiment House just had a later start and later end than Lucy's and Edmund's schools. If that was the case, then they would still be in school while the others were out for summer.
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Well, if Experiment House started later than Lucy's school then Lucy would not have been traveling on the train with Jill and Eustace. If it let out later then there would be no reason for them to be travelling to school and meeting the boys in London plus it would have been awful hard for them to attend the Meeting of the Friends of Narnia when they were supposed to be studying for the Exams before the Holiday. No, I am pretty sure that Lucy was old enough to be out of High School. I do not rule out the fact that it could like Elentari said about being done with "regular" school and being in "college", nor will I rule out that Queen Lucy the Valiant did not finish with High school early. We note that Tirian thought that Peter looked younger he himself; on the flip side, we also know that had Peter been able to go there, it is probable that he would not have continued to look younger than Tirian. Could it be that Tirian saw a Peter who was the same age as himself, but thought he was younger because of the life that Peter led in England.



At any rate we need to get back on topic.
 
QueenSusanofNarnia said:
My two-cents.

I think that the filmmakers are making it purposefully directed at an elder sort of audience. Sure, the books were made for kids, but the people who read them when they were kids are now older. So the addition of romance into the films is simply reinforcing that - though in CS Lewis's novels the children were not able to love on a romantic level - people are really capable of feelings like that. Sure, it might not be "love." But did it not seem that Susan and Caspian's relationship was not just a crush? I think it was perfectly obvious that the kiss was the extent of their relationship. I do not think that they'd throw in a Jill/Eustace relationship in the same manner, but I think that they may hint at some sort of an even more innocent "crush" that does not go anywhere near the level Susan and Caspian's.
Sure. It won't be totally the same thing as the book. But honestly, give me one single film that follows exactly the storyline of the book. It's obvious that the films are targeted at an audience of 11+, and I think that some people may be overreacting about it all. I personally thought that Prince Caspian was more mature of a film, and much more realistic than it could have been had they stuck directly to the novel; so if there's a Justace, I'm fine with it.
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Exactly. Well Put Queen Susan :D
 
ok, first, even if the actors are 15, they;re gona make them younger obviously !! and i think that the romance between susan and caspian, was really little, we dont see them walk in the forest hand in hand or anything like that, but i dont want another romance in the chronicles of narnia movie, it would be, i dont know how to say it, too much !!
 
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