Magician's Nephew Speculation

imkingdavid said:
I'm looking forward to the quest for the apple. Should be fun to watch the horse grow wings and fly them to the garden and get chased by the queen and all that good stuff. That being said, I haven't read the book recently, and probably will before seeing the movie, just because.
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Nice choice. It would be nice to get to see wings on Strawberry :) I think waking the Jadis in Char would also be nice, but I really want to see Aslan weep for Digory's mother.
 
I want to see the wood between the worlds! If it's anything like the book, it will be really awesome!

Yes, yes, I know that 'anything like the book' is the issue.
 
Ok, hopefully not to spark another debate, why are we going on so much about it being so different from the book? Yes, there will be differences; there are in every movie that is adapted from any book. Yes, things are added, removed, and changed. No, I don't like things being added. Yes, it sucks that things get removed and changed. But it happens. I don't see why were predicting that this movie is not going to be "anything like the book".

Anyway, I agree that the wood between the worlds should be a great scene too.
 
Many Spoilers!

Although I was originally frustrated with the decision to proceed with The Magician's Nephew, I am glad an adaptation of this story is in the works. This Narnian chronicle has never been brought to film before. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

There are many aspects of the novel I look forward to seeing. I certainly hope they are all handled well and reflect C.S. Lewis's ideas. As you know, The Magician's Nephew takes place years before The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. As such, I look forward to the setting: turn-of-the-Century London in all its grandour. That alone could bring appeal to the movies' trailer.

One of my favorite themes throughout the story is the development of Polly and Digory's friendship. Although they get into a few binds, they stick together through thick and thin. By the end of the story they are close friends who keep contact.

The Wood between the Worlds, Charn, and Narnia are three distinct realms. Each should be lavishly conceptualized and include as many details as possible described in the book. Transitioning from world to world will be adventerous and the story, having picked up speed, should climax in the creation of Narnia.

It will be interesting to see how each character is handled. I am most looking forward to the castings of Digory, Polly and Frank. I presume Tilda Swinton and Leim Neeson will reprise their roles as Jadis and Aslan. While I don't care much for the character of Uncle Andrew, I do hope the actor chosen is not well-known, and that he is portrayed as the sinister wimp we find in the book. I do look forward to the castings of Aunt Letty and Mabel. There are numerous animals in Narnia, so I wonder how much of their dialogue will be excluded. I hope most of it remains, for much of it ("including the first joke and other matters") is rather amusing. I am partial to the Bulldog.

Finally, there is the ending. How will "the end of this story and the beginning of all the others" be shown? The apple tree and wardrobe? Digory as Professor Kirke? Jadis as the White Witch? I hope all is tied together in a cinematically profound way.

There is much more I could discuss (such as the opening scene :)). I really have no idea how The Magician's Nephew will be handled. I will admit, I have my reservations. I have only past films to base this on. But I will say that, despite some radical changes from C.S. Lewis's Narnia, these family-friendly films (I especially appreciate the modesty) have maintained important Christian values. And for that I am grateful and looking forward to the next installment.
 
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imkingdavid said:
Ok, hopefully not to spark another debate, why are we going on so much about it being so different from the book? Yes, there will be differences; there are in every movie that is adapted from any book. Yes, things are added, removed, and changed. No, I don't like things being added. Yes, it sucks that things get removed and changed. But it happens. I don't see why were predicting that this movie is not going to be "anything like the book".

Anyway, I agree that the wood between the worlds should be a great scene too.
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Because only one of out the 3 movies released have been even close to the book. It seems strange that they had such a good book adaptation with LWW, but it seems to have gotten away from them with PC and VDT. They've watered down the stories, and with TMN, that is absolutely unforgivable. TMN is probably one of the most blatantly obvious Christian books in the series because of the creation element. And we're predicting that the movie will be nothing like the book because of the last two films. If they couldn't get it right with two chances, what are the chances that TMN will be any different? I gave the filmmakers one last chance with VDT, and they completely blew it. A lot of other fans feel the same way. I don't deny that keeping the end of the world scenes was a good move because it was. But the other story elements? Give me a break. I trusted once, and I'm not trusting again.

It's not ridiculous to believe that they will screw up TMN; especially since we held such high hopes for VDT and those hopes were destroyed. VDT wasn't the redemption of the franchise. If anything, it could very well have been the death of it because I won't be supporting TMN until well after release, if at all. And I know for a fact that I'm very much NOT alone in that sentiment.

That said, if I ever see the movie, the one scene I'd like to see is Aslan talking to Digory about his mother. For me that's one of the most important parts in the story.
 
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Aravis Kenobi said:
Because only one of out the 3 movies released have been even close to the book. It seems strange that they had such a good book adaptation with LWW, but it seems to have gotten away from them with PC and VDT. They've watered down the stories, and with TMN, that is absolutely unforgivable. TMN is probably one of the most blatantly obvious Christian books in the series because of the creation element. And we're predicting that the movie will be nothing like the book because of the last two films. If they couldn't get it right with two chances, what are the chances that TMN will be any different? I gave the filmmakers one last chance with VDT, and they completely blew it. A lot of other fans feel the same way. I don't deny that keeping the end of the world scenes was a good move because it was. But the other story elements? Give me a break. I trusted once, and I'm not trusting again.

It's not ridiculous to believe that they will screw up TMN; especially since we held such high hopes for VDT and those hopes were destroyed. VDT wasn't the redemption of the franchise. If anything, it could very well have been the death of it because I won't be supporting TMN until well after release, if at all. And I know for a fact that I'm very much NOT alone in that sentiment.

That said, if I ever see the movie, the one scene I'd like to see is Aslan talking to Digory about his mother. For me that's one of the most important parts in the story.
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you forget my dear, that VDT was pre-produced at Disney, and made at Fox. Fox hasn't had a swing at having full development of a Narnia film under them. Being more conservative than Disney (save for the Fox Broadcasting company), I'm sure that things will be different. While your claims are not ridiculous to think that they will screw up, We have nothing pointing to not-failing other than two films produced and one developed by another studio. I also Don't think they dare change MN's message or plot too much as it is so connected to LWW.
 
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Last I checked, neither Disney nor Fox wrote the script. That job is delegated to the filmmaking team, not the distribution companies. I'm not forgetting anything. :mad:
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
Last I checked, neither Disney nor Fox wrote the script. That job is delegated to the filmmaking team, not the distribution companies. I'm not forgetting anything. :mad:
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Not the studios themselves, but they do have the reins. Remember Disney came up with Suspian, which probably would not have happened if Walden developed it by themselves. that's why they 'co-produced' the films with Walden. Disney didn't just simply market and distribute a film the had no hand in (though one may argue that LWW was just that, until Disney saw the $$$). A script is probably worked on by Walden's screenwriters and presented to the studio (which pays the bills), and the studio must approve the script. Remember that Gresham was told there would be no film , if such and such change was not made. that's not Walden that's Disney( or possibly Fox) that told him that. Studios have large creative control over their product. Especially if their the one paying the bills. That's why I've been pointing out that VDT is not a true reflection of Fox's attempt at Narnia. Pre-production was completed at Disney and only when filming was meant to start did Disney pull the plug (due to costs). Fox picked up Disney's adaptation, tinkered a little bit, but rushed it a little to meet dead lines. With the next film fox will be there from the beginning, and we cannot know what they will do until we see some preproduction work or interviews (and possibly only with the final product). Judging the next film based on the last three, would be like saying that , for example:
I Couldn't possibly have a written a good Oz book (#41), because the last dozen or so were rotten. I can't write a good book because the authors before me couldn't. I wouldn't be true to the spirit because they weren't.

That's how these arguements seem to be. to paraphrase Alice We are having execution before trial (and perhaps before evidence). While there is nothing wrong with your disappointment with the series, slandering Fox over films they didn't make (or develop) is rather silly, in my point of view. each studio acts differently. Now that Narnia has settled from the bumpy move, we have to watch and wait. If it ends up as bad as PC, I will gladly help you build the hanging platform (which I chopped wood for), but not until AFTER the trial.

Now to change the subject, Do you think they will feature the professor from LWW, in MN?
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
My point is proven. You contradicted yourself in your own post.

See ya.
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How? I can be true the original source material if I please. Other's inability to do so have no bearing on my attempt.

Plus, I was referring to the silliness of judging someone's work in the same area based on those before them. I was not agreeing with the example. I was just putting the argument in a different context.
 
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A scene I'd really like to see done well is the "strike the bell and bide the danger scene" in Charn. It really depends on the actors though, and how well of a performance they put up.
 
Yes! I feel almost if Digory does go mad in that scene because of that warning. the direct contrast with polly would be very juicy scene for any skilled actor.
 
BUMP! :D

I was thinking do you think the film makers will look at the Lefay fragment, when making this film? I really see no reason too, but apparently it exists...

Does anybody know it's contents?
 
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