Magician's Nephew Speculation

MrBob said:
"There was only a year that passed between the events of VDT and the events of TSC"

Actually Aravis, it was only a few weeks (maybe about six or so). I would love for them to do SC before MN. It is just better, especially since they left that open at the end of VotDT with Jill at the door.
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That's the main reason why I don't understand the reasoning behind even discussing TMN first.
 
MrBob said:
Actually Aravis, it was only a few weeks (maybe about six or so).
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Now where did you get that from? I just checked and when, at the begining of Silver Chair, Eustace and Jill are talking and they mention that a term has gone by and before that the holidays. Now I don't know about you but in my world a "term" is about six weeks. Since I really don't think it was the very end of the holidays in Dawn Treader than how can it only be a few weeks? I always thought it was more like a few months.... hmm, but I suppose that this is not the place to discuss that.... still.

Either way it isn't very long, and not near long enough for Eustace to have aged for years. So if they do have MN done next and wait on Silver chair they'll have an interesting time explaining that one.:p
 
Mozart the Meerkitten said:
Am I the only one who thinks that the only film the kids should be older in is Last Battle?:rolleyes:
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Well, sure, beyond the stable doors the kids are even older than when they "departed" our world.

But Eustace and Jill are still pretty young when they travel to Narnia to help King Tirian. Probably no more than 16, but perhaps as young as 10 (there's that bit about the timeline controversy as a result of Hooper's possible transcription error of Lewis' handwriting).

But your point is well taken, Eustace is about the same age in VDT and SC, and older in LB.
 
I don't know. When I first heard Ben Barnes was playing Prince Capsian and looked him up online, I was apalled at the age difference. I guess I've gotten over that though. True, I would really like the characters to be cast and recast according to their appropriate ages in each book, but I find myself less concerned with this now. I'm not sure why my feelings have changed on this.

Anyway, yeah I was thinking too Jill and Eustace could be in their first year of university if The Silver Chair isn't filmed for another few years. Also, we know in the books that Aslan tells the children at various times that they are too old to come back to Narnia. What does he say in the movies? Someone remind me please. It seems like at the end of Prince Caspian he says to Lucy and Edmund (about Peter and Susan) "Your brother and sister have learned all that they can from this world." What does he say at the end of The Voyage of the Dawn Treador to Lucy and Edmund? Did he say they were too old? Hopefully not, because that would discredit having an older Eustace and Jill in The Silver Chair and The Last Battle.
 
But you have the knotty problem of the events being changed in TSC. If they're going to shove Eustace and Jill into college, I certainly won't be seeing the movie.

I don't recall Aslan telling Lucy and Edmund they were too old, but it was implied.
 
tirian_son_of_erlian said:
I don't know. When I first heard Ben Barnes was playing Prince Capsian and looked him up online, I was apalled at the age difference. I guess I've gotten over that though. True, I would really like the characters to be cast and recast according to their appropriate ages in each book, but I find myself less concerned with this now. I'm not sure why my feelings have changed on this.

Anyway, yeah I was thinking too Jill and Eustace could be in their first year of university if The Silver Chair isn't filmed for another few years. Also, we know in the books that Aslan tells the children at various times that they are too old to come back to Narnia. What does he say in the movies? Someone remind me please. It seems like at the end of Prince Caspian he says to Lucy and Edmund (about Peter and Susan) "Your brother and sister have learned all that they can from this world." What does he say at the end of The Voyage of the Dawn Treador to Lucy and Edmund? Did he say they were too old? Hopefully not, because that would discredit having an older Eustace and Jill in The Silver Chair and The Last Battle.
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I think age could contribute, because I think you're right about the learning all they could from it and they've matured and grown old enough to use what Aslan had given them in their own world... And your idea about Jill and Eustace starting out in University could possibly work also, but alot of things will need to change if they change their age, but perhaps they can make it work, I can see it working.
 
"Now where did you get that from? I just checked and when, at the begining of Silver Chair, Eustace and Jill are talking and they mention that a term has gone by and before that the holidays."

Mozart, maybe you misread. It was the last term that Eustace was a prat and a helped to Them. He then went to Narnia over the summer and changed. TSC starts in Autumn and enough time has gone by (I would guess about a month) where Jill has had enough time to notice the change in Eustace. Let me change it to about 8 weeks since VotDT begins in early August (see when the journal entries begin for Eustace). It may be about early October when the events of VotDt take place.

MrBob
 
That's the main reason why I don't understand the reasoning behind even discussing TMN first.



It would make sense to film The Silve Chair next. But I understand why they want to go with The Magician's Nephew. I don't agree with their decision but I think it's the second-best; it would make even less sense to go with The Last Battle or The Horse and His Boy next.

I think they want to market The Magician's Nephew the way they did The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, making it an adventure of discovery and magic. Unfortunately, they blew a golden opportunity to do this with The Voyage of the Dawn Treador, but, with the added element of creation, they have an opportunity to redeem themselves with The Magician's Nephew. Even if The Silver Chair were masterfully and canonically adapted by a skilled director, I don't see it as having wide enough appeal at this point in time.



Note: I use "they" very vaguely here. Right now I'm not assigning blame to any one party, but rather seeing the wisdom in the decision to proceed with TMN.
 
Like I posted on the Horse and His Boy thread, I think they were discussing this order from the start. I remember reading in one of the making-of-the-movie books that the moviemakers were considering making MN before SC.

Still, this is only my memory... I couldn't remember where it was in the book and don't have time to read it cover to cover. XD
 
I would have liked them to make SC next, but ok. I hope they make the Wood between the Worlds well,( is that not the English name)?
 
@tirian: I understand that, BUT, to me TSC is the next logical choice because of Will P. We've gotten to know him in VDT, and in TSC, we get to knwo him better. THAT in and of itself should have been enough of a draw for them to talk TSC, not TMN.
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
@tirian: I understand that, BUT, to me TSC is the next logical choice because of Will P. We've gotten to know him in VDT, and in TSC, we get to knwo him better. THAT in and of itself should have been enough of a draw for them to talk TSC, not TMN.
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I agree, but I bet Fox is doing this to get people back into the theaters. Think about it MN has the closest ties to LWW. LWW is the only film practically everyone was happy with. Now that the house of mouse is out of the picture, Fox may use the overly familiar images of the lamppost and Jadis to recall the overused publicity that Disney used on the first picture. Plus the producer dying (it was his favorite book, which means that MN will probably be dedicated to him), and the fact he has secured funding for it, makes it very appealing to the bean-counting executives. fingers crossed that Fox proves they can pull off another LWW.
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
I don't think so, but whatever. I still won't be seeing it.
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Well I hope your wrong. (not to be spiteful just it would be nice if they actually pulled it off).You can stay home if you want too, I'm buying two tickets so I'll go for you ;). I just can't promise I'll be happy afterwards, but till then I've got hope.
 
Just going to put my two bits in: MN could either do really well or really crappy in theaters. On one hand, if they market it as the prequel to LWW and emphasize that connection, it would probably draw back a few people that we've lost along the way. On the other hand, the creation aspect of MN would probably drive away the non-Christian audiences of the casual movie-goer audience. But if they try to water down the creation aspect of MN, they would alienate pretty much everyone else. I think it could go either way though.

As for doing SC next, it would all depend on Will Poulter, now that the last of the Pevensies are gone. But honestly, his portrayal of Eustace is my favorite part of VDT. He perfect. I know of so many people who were overall disappointed with the movie but loved Eustace. If WP isn't in SC if and when it gets made, I will probably cry.

And on a random note? I doubt the screenwriters can do a worse job than those who did the Eragon movie, so I'm not concerned about the worst book-to-film adaption, because I've already seen it.
 
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daedhel said:
Just going to put my two bits in: MN could either do really well or really crappy in theaters. On one hand, if they market it as the prequel to LWW and emphasize that connection, it would probably draw back a few people that we've lost along the way. On the other hand, the creation aspect of MN would probably drive away the non-Christian audiences of the casual movie-goer audience. But if they try to water down the creation aspect of MN, they would alienate pretty much everyone else. I think it could go either way though.

As for doing SC next, it would all depend on Will Poulter, now that the last of the Pevensies are gone. But honestly, his portrayal of Eustace is my favorite part of VDT. He perfect. I know of so many people who were overall disappointed with the movie but loved Eustace. If WP isn't in SC if and when it gets made, I will probably cry.

And on a random note? I doubt the screenwriters can do a worse job than those who did the Eragon movie, so I'm not concerned about the worst book-to-film adaption, because I've already seen it.
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I don't think they can get away with watering down the creationism, but I have to differ on the worst movie adaptation. Have you seen the Abomination Ella Enchanted? I would personally (yes ME the person always worrying about film preservation) would burn the master Negatives. Eragon is close, very close, but Ella beats it by a hair.
 
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