Peter & Caspian fighting scene

We don't know. I do not htink it will be completely terrible with what they are doing. At least I hope not.
 
Unfortunately this is the word out of Narnia Web with regards the scene, they got it directly from the horse's mouth so to speak:

Orginally Posted by Narina Web:

Ernie talked more about the conflict between the characters that we've been hearing about. "You have this animosity between a prince who is the rightful heir to the throne and somebody who is a king," Ernie said. "And of course the king feels that he trumps the prince, because this used to be Peter's throne. All four of them were the high kings and queens of Narnia. So you have that animosity that exists between those two characters. They decide to lay siege on the castle to take Miraz down. They don't understand that there are other ways of doing it."
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Two reasons:
1) Susan
If there is a romance, maybe Peter is defending Susan, because he knows that she will have to leave Narnia and this will leave both Caspian and her in tears. Naturally, Caspian would not see things in that way.
2) Miraz
They could be testing each other to see who is more fir to fight the usurper. Don't forget that as good as they are, both Peter and Caspian are young and Miraz is an old and skilled warrior and a cold-blooded murderer. They will need to ensure who is better.
 
GeNtLe SuSaN said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mY2_jKK9iEc&mode=related&search=

^^It shows the fighting scene in that.

I have no clue....lol. :p
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well i had to watch it without sound so i dont nknow much, but you know Ben doesnt look as bad as i thouht he might. he still looks a little old, but i think he'll work:)
Darth Sparhawk said:
Two reasons:
1) Susan
If there is a romance, maybe Peter is defending Susan, because he knows that she will have to leave Narnia and this will leave both Caspian and her in tears. Naturally, Caspian would not see things in that way.
2) Miraz
They could be testing each other to see who is more fir to fight the usurper. Don't forget that as good as they are, both Peter and Caspian are young and Miraz is an old and skilled warrior and a cold-blooded murderer. They will need to ensure who is better.
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you know, both of those reasons work. i like the way you think. haha. Niki said the exat same thing to me earlier today:D
 
You know, it might be even be the two things together. They started sparring together, the matter of Susan becomes an issue during the fight - that's why they are fighting so hard.:)
 
Well, from the interviews done with all the crew members they talked about several themes that the characters are dealing with. Keep in mind that the Caspian in the book and the Caspian in the movie seem to be very different. The one in the film is more arrogant and cockey. He's not like the humble one in the book who continually stands in awe of Peter. The crew interviews indicated that there is a struggle where Peter feels a sense of entitlement to rule because it was his throne, and once a king of Narnia, always a king of Narnia. Then Caspian has been raised up until his cousin's birth to think he would take the throne. Thus there seems to be a power struggle that is not in the book at all. Peter willingly steps aside and sets a chivalrous example for Caspian in the book where he teaches him how to be a king and what it means to be a king. This doesn't seem to happen at all in the movie from what I can tell. The 2 are supposed to fight it out. I hate this idea, but that's just me. I'm much more in favor of the behavior in the books, but apparently they wanted to show the angst that the kids would feel so they developed a power struggle instead of going the more noble, wise, and honorable route. It's sad because it is yet another blow to people seeing Peter as anything magnificent. He was in the book, but the movie scripts have left the character out in the cold there I think. It's not the battles that make him magnificent, but the honorable and wise character of the boy/man...they missed the point I think.
 
Tough to say. There are shots I've seen with the kids and Trumpkin in the boat so I'm guessing they find him at the right time, wether thy wait for the various challenges is yet to be revealed. But from what I read about the characters of Caspian and Peter they have a sort of power struggle throughout the film. I'm not sure to what extent, but they have a huge arguement and from what it looks like a fight as well.
 
This sounds dreadful, really dreadful. I cannot think how it could be a good idea to have a power struggle between Peter and Caspian. I suppose we have to hope for the best. I am also curious about this bit:
"You have this animosity between a prince who is the rightful heir to the throne and somebody who is a king," Ernie said. "And of course the king feels that he trumps the prince, because this used to be Peter's throne. All four of them were the high kings and queens of Narnia. So you have that animosity that exists between those two characters. They decide to lay siege on the castle to take Miraz down.
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Lay siege to the castle? The Pevenies don't even arrive until Miraz has besieged Caspian and his army. There's no castle -- at least, they are not besieging Miraz's castle. Oh, Andrew, what are you doing?!
 
I must admit I've been reading with growing trepidation the accounts of what the screenwriters have done with the story. To have certain elements of the story reconfigured to better suit the video media is one thing; to have a couple nameless postmodern-thinking Hollywood types take it on themselves to "improve" one of the classic stories of its genre is quite another. I'm growing more concerned that the later Narnia movies will turn out even worse than Jackson's travesty of Tolkien's classic. If Douglas Gresham, Walden Media, and the Lewis Estate don't step in to insure basic adherence to the principles of the story, I'm going to be extremely disappointed in all of them.

I'd hate to have to come on this forum and tell people to boycott Prince Caspian and all the movies following.
 
Woah there, keep in mind that although Doug and the Estate get a bit of a say, they don't get the final say as far as I understand it. People need to get that up front. The rights were sold to Walden. Doug can't be blamed for everything, goodness knows enough people try with anything they don't like. He's going to do the best he can to make sure that it's ok. There are things he has had to compromise on plain and simple. He's had to pick his battles carefully. There are a number of things we may not like about the film and it won't be perfect at all. It won't be the classic we loved...some things will be close, but I think that a lot of proverbial change will be spent on this one. The crew likes to think that all the great production, costumes, effects, and such will make up for the difference and will be sadly mistaken if they don't get the script and characters right. Now you understand my call for different script writers in the other thread. The BBC series I think will kick Walden's tail in that area hands down no questions asked. On script alone the BBC has it beat by far, even with over half of PC left out...whatever they did do of it they did well. Tis sad really. I'd take the production of the Disney/Walden and the script of the BBC and it would be nice...but alas that is wishful dreaming.

They've made it clear that there will be a raid on Miraz's castle to rescue someone, it will not go well, and that Caspian, Peter, Edmund, and Susan are involved in it. It's supposed to be mid-movie. They've altered a number of things. This we know full well already. We'll have to relax, go see the film, and judge for ourselves what to think. Having said that, remember that VDT has a different director and that it might just go a different direction with Michael Apted. I wouldn't boycott the series yet. If PC fails though, they'll put a hault to the rest of the series all together....we'll have to wait and see.
 
Yikes. Now I am biting my nails. What would make them do such sweeping changes? It's an exciting story in the book ... No wonder they picked a grown man to play Caspian. He's Rambo. :(
 
Well, it will be what it will be. There are a lot of areas where the normal stuff from Caspian is going on...there are scenes that are in there that I'm glad for like Lucy's time in the woods with Aslan. We can borrow trouble all over the place and if we harp on it too much we will be sure to be disappointed in the film. The production value is amazing, but truth be told we'll have to wait and see what happens. Most of it will boil down to one thing that is finished for the most part and was before they started filming....a.k.a. the script. I wish that they wouldn't take the liberties they do, but we can't change that and we learned in the first film that they wanted to take some. They said at Comic Con that the wanted to remain faithful to the books....but what that looks like to them and what it looks like to us....there's no way to know how similar those views are. They did say they wanted to embellish here and there. We'll have to wait and see. The movie will be based on the book but they might not be the characters we've known and loved from the books over the years. They'll have the names and looks (for some), but the actions and hearts may not be the same. We had a glimpse of that in LWW though so it's not so much of a shocker. We've known this for awhile. We'll just have to go and hope for the best. We will always have the books and they can't take those away from us. The rest will be what it will be.
 
Well, really I don't think that there will be a struggle between Peter and Caspian in PC, or at least, it won't be what you think that it will be. First, I like Peter from the movie, I think that they have made him to be really chivlarious. He is not Palpatine. I don't believe that when he returns to Narnia, he will begin plotting how to put himself back on throne. Here is what I think... You remember from LWW movie that he was sort of bossy. He was the one who corrected all, Ed, Lucy, even Susan. He seems to feel an enormous sense of responsibility not only to his family, but to Narnia as well.
I think that he will try to correct Caspian's actions, especially if the Prince really is portrayed as sort of arrogant young noble. Caspian will clearly be frustrated by these and may become irritated with Peter. Add to this the supposed romance between him and Susan and how would Peter this. Add to this the old hag, which was mentioned in the book - she could influence Caspian with dark magic.
All of this could result in some sort of battle. I am sure, though, that both will be terribly sorry after that.
So, calm down. I am sure that the movie will be great. Have some trust in Walden and Disney.:cool:
 
Well, I have zero trust in Disney on that sort of thing - they've proved time and again that they'll do anything at all if it stands a chance of making money. I'd hope that Walden would strive for a little integrity. Simply having the same characters and borrowing a few common points from the books does not a faithful rendition make.

I can see why Tolkien steadfastly resisted having his works put to film while he was alive, though Disney asked several times. (Turns out he was right.) The thing that concerns me is that even though "we" will still have the books if the film renditions go off the rails, there is an entire generation who hasn't yet. We've had people on this forum state, "why should I read the book, if I've got the movie?" If they make a terrible rendition of the book, there will be people who see it and think they've heard the story.
 
In reality, movies and books are different arts and it is obvious, that sometimes differences are needed. Walden and Disney are investing huge amounts of money in this and they can not risk it being a flop. I disagree with you about LotR - I am not a huge fan neither of the movies, nor of the book, but it is obvious that the film is not bad.
If a movie is a 100% copy of the book, it might become boring and hard to watch, thus becoming a flop. The LWW movie brought many new fans of Narnia and made the books best-sellers again. I am sure that PC will do the same.
 
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