The Series is threatened.

I think what several of the fans want is acknowledgement. They want the franchise to admit that they messed up with PC and NOT just because they released it among other huge blockbusters. I don't think we'll ever get that acknowledgement, but I know many, many fans who would like it. It would help things out a ton.

Tragically some of the same writers are going to be working on the VDT script. Thankfully Apted brought in a few others to "rework" some things well into the process. I hope he will do better.

I'm well aware that PC needed a lot in the adaptation between book and film. But a smart person knows the difference between adaptation and fan fiction. The script writers teetered on that line and somewhat crossed it a few times. The Caspian/Susan thing should NEVER have happened, Peter....well yeah the changes there were horrific (wishes they'd have kept the Picking the Marshalls scene and booted the aweful early fight in the train station among others), and the Susan turned Xena Warrior Princess wasn't great.

Sure we can't change PC now, but that is entirely irrelevant. We can voice our displeasure as much as we feel necessary so that they know not to make the same mistakes again....lest the fans end the series with lack of support. Woops, many are already working on that and will continue unless they get a reason not to. Granted you don't see them on here because they've already left.

They need to do VDT well if things are going to continue. They just really need to.
 
They do. Let's just hope they listen to us.

Edit: The series is definetly threatened now. Disney just said that they're backing down from VotDT. Walden said that Fox is the next most likely candidate. Hopefully they'll take it and hopefully they'll be able to do as good, if not better, than the first two movies.
 
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i can't wait to see voyage of the dawn treader :) and hope they continue with the other narnia adaptions,i love l/w/w and prince caspian more so,ben barnes has had some uncalled for backlash just lately not
only about his portrayal of prince caspian but also as dorian gray,i for one
think he is a fantastic actor,and have got his films of
easy virtue and bigga than ben,and im looking forward to seeing v/o/d/treader
and seeing ben reprise his role as king caspian,bring it on! :)
 
QueenxCaspian said:
ben barnes has had some uncalled for backlash just lately not only about his portrayal of prince caspian but also as dorian gray, i for one think he is a fantastic actor
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If the ONLY major change made in the Caspian film had been to make the Prince older so that Ben Barnes could portray him and be a teen idol, I could have accepted that. FAR, FAR WORSE was their intentional plan to make Peter Pevensie look INFERIOR to Caspian in both character and intelligence. THIS was what made the film exactly the same in spirit as "Ferris Bueller"--the message, intended to flatter a teenage audience, that students are wiser than their elders (for Peter was supposed to be Caspian's elder in experience).
 
Copperfox said:
If the ONLY major change made in the Caspian film had been to make the Prince older so that Ben Barnes could portray him and be a teen idol, I could have accepted that. FAR, FAR WORSE was their intentional plan to make Peter Pevensie look INFERIOR to Caspian in both character and intelligence. THIS was what made the film exactly the same in spirit as "Ferris Bueller"--the message, intended to flatter a teenage audience, that students are wiser than their elders (for Peter was supposed to be Caspian's elder in experience).
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This is why I called Caspian "High School Musical Narnia Edition." It was simple fangrabbing.

The sad thing is, if this third one doesn't make more than 2x its budget, it means that it didn't make the studio money. And if that happens, I think the series is done.

Personal opinion is, and I'm an optimist, don't get me wrong.. that the books will have to finish the stories for the fans of these movies. I don't see it getting past VoDT.
 
HSM CON, that's funny. :)

When I heard that the script for VDT borrows elements from the upcoming books, plot elements, I began to fear that it would be the last of the Narnia films this go-round. What plot elements could they borrow from SC that would work here an still leave something left to make an SC movie?

And frankly, if VDT is as bad an adaptation of the book as PC was, then I don't think we really lose if they stop making the films. I would rather they didn't make any more of them than treat them as sloppily as they did PC.

(BTW, I am not a PC film hater! I liked the film very much and found it very exciting and entertainng. I just do not think it was an actual adaptation of the book.)
 
I don`t think anyone knows exactly what Ben was on about or whether he was responding to older versions of the screenplay, which we do know added bits of SC to the story.
I`m reserving judgement on it until I see the finished movie, there is still over a year to go and a lot of editing and reworking of the raw footage will happen before the final version emerges.
 
Yah, he did not say what had been borrowed from the other books, but there's so much action in VDT, I am going to be very disappointed if they ignore what's there and bring in stuff from the other books ... it will mess up VDT and ruin the chances of the others being made into films.
 
I am reminded of a made-for-TV movie about Noah's Ark, made something like twelve years ago; it was so contemptuous of the source material, that it depicted Lot as a _contemporary_ of Noah! A fantasy like Narnia is at least equally vulnerable to "improvements."
 
MEM said:
Do you think there will be a 4th film? I really hope Silver Chair gets green lighted. =)
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I think that it really depends on the box office ($$$) success of "Voyage". At this point I think they should only make it if they are going to do it the correct way, script wise.

I think it a bit simplistic to assign the blame to poor editing and an unappealing title character. I thought Ben Barnes was a good Caspian and played well the role he was assigned - it's just that the role he was assigned wasn't the role found in the classic book.

If Walden wants to continue making the books into movies, I hope they will catch on that their most dedicated base and biggest potential market is fans of Narnia, people who grew up on the books, who number in the millions. If they respect the stories (as Lion did), they can expect enthusiastic support. If they vary from the stories and think their screenwriters can do a better job than C.S. Lewis, then they can expect people to abandon them.
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I agree with this. Listening to the commentary (Prince Caspian) they were pushing for the love scenes way too much. There was possibly going to be more in the finished version but it got cut because it seemed too ridiculous.
 
Though I do hope for more Narnia movies, I don't think they'll make more. In fact, if they are not going to stick to the books a little closer, then it's probably best if they don't make anymore.
 
BarbarianKing said:
Though I do hope for more Narnia movies, I don't think they'll make more. In fact, if they are not going to stick to the books a little closer, then it's probably best if they don't make anymore.
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I agree, BK. If VDT does not follow the book, then I think it wil be best f they quit making the films.

But I am hopeful about VDT.
 
What angers me about that attitude is that it means no Silver Chair...my favorite book of the series.

Prince Caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader are by far my least favorite books of the series which is why I don't care about the changes.

LWW didnt have many changes from the book because the book was easy to adapt to film. Same with the Silver Chair.

Wheras PC's plot revolved around a flashback (via storytelling), long walks through the forest, convoluted exposition, random partying, and no sense of direction.

VotDT is a bit better, but there is no villain and its a string of episodic events.

Silver Chair has a plot that's easier to follow, a good villain, and great characters like Puddlglum. There is room for action without altering the story and it has a lot of potential.
 
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