Why does everyone hate this movie merged with worst change

What was the worst change from the book in your opinion?

  • Interlacing the Caspian sequences between the Pevensie sequences

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Aslan's first introduction

    Votes: 9 6.2%

  • The addition of the raid of Miraz's castle

    Votes: 9 6.2%

  • Peter's added cockiness and arrogance

    Votes: 50 34.5%

  • Susan's romantic affair with Caspian

    Votes: 49 33.8%

  • Caspian's age

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Something else

    Votes: 7 4.8%

  • They were all good

    Votes: 17 11.7%
  • Total voters
    145
One thing's for sure though, I'm pretty sure Reep's crossing into Aslan's country will be quite a dramatic moment in the upcoming VDT film.
 
MrBob said:
"the fact that the White Witch was still alive in a way raises questions about the triumph of good over evil in the first movie. I guess the triumph wasn't complete!"
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I said this because the Witch was actually, really, truly, finally dead in LWW. This means that the hag was wrong when she said, "You can always call them back up."

If Aslan's victory was complete in LWW, she shouldn't have been [alive?] in PC.

I am glad to see that someone agrees with me! :D:D:D
 
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Yes she is physically dead, what is implied in the book is that she could be brought back as some sort of ghost or spirit.
The movie took things a stage farther by dropping in a lot of references to the first film as if to imply that what was going on was an attempt to duplicate Aslan`s reserection in a way.
The way it was done suggested that Caspian was being used as a sacrifice and, had the Pevensies not intervened either his body would have become a host for Jadis`s disemboded spirit, or she would be able to `take life` from caspian and return to life again. Leaving Caspian trapped forever in the limbo like realm her spirit has been banished to since she died.
 
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AsbelMctalisker said:
The way it was done suggested that Caspian was being used as a sacrifice and, had the Pevensies not intervened either his body would have become a host for Jadis`s disemboded spirit, or she would be able to `take life` from caspian and return to life again.
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That first suggestion got me so intrigued.... That would've been INCREDIBLY interesting to see, but... That would've been going too far. Though I loved the changes, that change would've been too over-the-top for me.

...Though I still think that's an incredibly intriguing idea. Wow, Asbel!
 
"The way it was done suggested that Caspian was being used as a sacrifice and, had the Pevensies not intervened either his body would have become a host for Jadis`s disemboded spirit, or she would be able to `take life` from caspian and return to life again. Leaving Caspian trapped forever in the limbo like realm her spirit has been banished to since she died."

or Asbel, it would have worked ala Voldemort in which a drop of blood helps to revive her while keeping Caspian's body and soul intact.

I actuall didn't mind the extension of the Hag/Werewolf scene that much. It didn't go against the general idea of the spell that the Hag was talking about in the book.

MrBob
 
I actually like the movie!

Okay. I'm sure by now, most of you have read my posts in which I denote the problems in the movie on this thread. Perhaps you are saying to yourself, "Wow! He must really hate the movie!" Well, I'd like to make it clear that I actually like the movie. It's fast-paced and exciting, it's intense and yet funny ("You... are a mouse." "I was hoping for something a litle more original than that."). There's no wild romp with a bunch of Greek mythological jerks. As a movie, by itself, it is very good. If it were not attached to a set of prestigious books, it would have no problems. Unfortunately, however, it is based the CoN and through a few devious deviations, it distorts some characters, characters which C.S. Lewis clearly laid down in the books. You can expand characters, but don't bend them out of shape. C.S. had the right ideas for his characters in the first place and it's not our job (or Hollywood's) to try to improve on them.
 
Sopespian said:
Okay. I'm sure by now, most of you have read my posts in which I denote the problems in the movie on this thread. Perhaps you are saying to yourself, "Wow! He must really hate the movie!" Well, I'd like to make it clear that I actually like the movie. It's fast-paced and exciting, it's intense and yet funny ("You... are a mouse." "I was hoping for something a litle more original than that."). There's no wild romp with a bunch of Greek mythological jerks. As a movie, by itself, it is very good. If it were not attached to a set of prestigious books, it would have no problems. Unfortunately, however, it is based the CoN and through a few devious deviations, it distorts some characters, characters which C.S. Lewis clearly laid down in the books. You can expand characters, but don't bend them out of shape. C.S. had the right ideas for his characters in the first place and it's not our job (or Hollywood's) to try to improve on them.
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I agree with Sopespian on all the above, except I liked the mythological jerks in the book, too, and would have liked to see them in the movie. I thought the movie was very exciting and suspenseful, and if it had been an independent movie without the Narnia characters or name attached to it, I think it would have been really good. It's failure was that it was supposed to be something about Narnia ...
 
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Uh... Wow... I've never been hugged online before. Er, I don't know what to say. Okay, now I do. Truman, I'm glad we've found something to agree on. I take it you feel very strongly about this, huh? :D :D :D
 
Even leaving out the Bacchus part, there was plenty of action in the Telmarine capital that they could AND SHOULD have included. It would have put Aslan onscreen for MORE than five seconds, and would have preserved more of the book's theme of restoration. But Adamson decided it was much more important to have Ben Barnes performing "I'm Too Sexy For My Chainmail."
 
Sopespian said:
Uh... Wow... I've never been hugged online before. Er, I don't know what to say. Okay, now I do. Truman, I'm glad we've found something to agree on. I take it you feel very strongly about this, huh? :D :D :D
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I've had so many people disagree with me about this, and finally! You, of all the people agree! Yes, it's very comforting to find something to agree on. ;)
 
DestinyLies said:
WOW! What an embrace! haha...I totally agree with ya'll on that.
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Well, thank you for using some some suthuhn lingo, but there is one problem... your "ya'll" should be "y'all." We Hoosiers with ruhts in Kenticky git kahnda puticular abat them theens, y'all know. :D:D:D
 
Sopespian said:
Well, thank you for using some some suthuhn lingo, but there is one problem... your "ya'll" should be "y'all." We Hoosiers with ruhts in Kenticky git kahnda puticular abat them theens, y'all know. :D:D
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Well golly Colonel Sanders, yaur raht on the spot thair. ;)

...Better start keeping this on topic before ItW sees us acting all naughty! ;)
 
peter annoyed me greatly. it says in the book, or something like this,
we've come to put you in the throne not out. so yeah i was soooooo annoyed, and the thing with su and casp, it would have been fine if they had just left out that kiss.:mad::mad:

other than that it was pretty cool. they neede it to be more actiony so the raid on the castle was a nice touch:D

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"Even leaving out the Bacchus part, there was plenty of action in the Telmarine capital that they could AND SHOULD have included."

I agree Copper. The romp with Bacchus and all his people, while a fun part in the book, was not necessary for the movie. It also was left out of the BBC miniseries, but the Romp with Aslan was a great part. It was about reawakening Narnia.

LWW had the Witch Castle scene when Aslan brought the statues to life. All they had in this one was Aslan roaring and things coming back to life. It didn't seem like enough of a job.

MrBob
 
What was so fun about the Bacchus orgy? I understand how it reflected Lewis' personality, but for us modern, civilized Americans it's revolting. Okay. So Lewis practically glamorizes sticky hands and not washing after eating all those grapes. Well, I work at A&W Restaurant (All American Food) and I get sticky hands a lot. I hate it! The romp is wild, with the Greek god of wine (a pain for us tee-totallers), and Aslan's right there condoning it all and making all the iniquity and wickedness okay because of his approval. It's sick! It's one of the few things I don't like about the books.
 
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What was so fun about the Bacchus orgy? I understand how it reflected Lewis' personality, but for us modern, civilized Americans it's revolting. Okay. So Lewis practically glamorizes sticky hands and not washing after eating all those grapes. Well, I work at A&W Restaurant (All American Food) and I get sticky hands a lot. I hate it! The romp is wild, with the Greek god of wine (a pain for us tee-totallers), and Aslan's right there condoning it all and making all the iniquity and wickedness okay because of his approval. It's sick! It's one of the few things I don't like about the books.
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I...what wickedness? There's no orgy in the book; they dance and there's wine (which might be a pain for some of you Protestants but would never be an issue for an Anglican), and...what, they don't wash their hands? That's a problem for you? I'm sure anyone there could have easily washed up afterward had they wanted to; as it was, they feasted and most of them didn't bother. That's hardly wicked.

And are you seriously implying that Lewis/1940s England was neither modern nor civilized?
 
Maybe I made too big a deal about the sticky hands. However, too more clearly inform you, a Baptist is not a Protestant, as the Baptists trace their roots all the way to the early church, while Protestantism date back to Martin Luther 95 Theses. I suppose that different people have different beliefs, but personally I found the Bacchus romp revolting.
 
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