HighQueenKaty
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Yes. Exactly. They should do it this way:
LWW, PC, VDT, H&B, SC, LB, MN... I think they should make H&B soon because otherwise they'll have a rather old Lucy... And I knew Will was 18-19, I just was trying to make a point.
Magician's Nephew Speculation
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Yes. Exactly. They should do it this way:
LWW, PC, VDT, H&B, SC, LB, MN... I think they should make H&B soon because otherwise they'll have a rather old Lucy... And I knew Will was 18-19, I just was trying to make a point.
tirian_son_of_erlian
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Demos, I love your ideas!
Brother of Narnians
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MN is fine..!
Well lots of discussion going on here, I would just like to say that I don't mind that they are making MN rather than SC, I think MN has more content than SC and it may do wll in terms of business, which is needed more than anything.
I hope MN can recreate the magic we saw in LWW and for that I think they should bring Andrew back as there is no one better than him.
Well lots of discussion going on here, I would just like to say that I don't mind that they are making MN rather than SC, I think MN has more content than SC and it may do wll in terms of business, which is needed more than anything.
I hope MN can recreate the magic we saw in LWW and for that I think they should bring Andrew back as there is no one better than him.
Not a bad idea, since Narnia was always filmed best with a "Son of Adam" (Adamson) in the director's chair!
HighQueenKaty
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Yes... I love Adamson. He's incredible. Georgie says he's really good with kids.
This movie will be the last Narnia movie. It's sad how they ruined the series. Instead of attracting new fans, the movie makers are turning people away from Narnia. I know several people who went to see LWW and liked it, then they went to see PC and thought it too dumb. They never went to see VODT. They won't even think about it with this one.
I think the Silver Chair would have been the one story to get those people back, but noooooo.
I think the Silver Chair would have been the one story to get those people back, but noooooo.
Aravis Kenobi
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If they bring Adamson back, you can rest assured that those who saw PC will not be seeing this film, especially those fans who had an issue with PC's story changes.
Agreed. I saw VODT twice, but to be perfectly honest, I was trying to force myself to like it and I couldn't. I wanted so badly to like it, but I just couldn't. I still like PC, and that was a terrible adaptation. TSC carries continuity over from VDT with Caspian and Eustace (not to even mention the addition of Jill pole at the very end of the film).
tirian_son_of_erlian
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Well, in light of what they've done with the past two films, it's probably better to return to something more closely related to the first film.
Soldier of Aslan
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Agreed!
I think that's why they picked MN, people will recognize the imagery, (lamp post, Jadis, etc.) and if the quality is up to par, then we will see a better return.And those who are screaming that the film is going to be worse, let me repeat again:
-Narnia is now under a different studio, so Disney's meddling with story and such won't be present. the only meddling will be Fox's, which can't be said because:
-VDT was pre-produced (script, most design, etc.) at Disney, and filmed by Fox. If I save your badly baked cake, it is not my fault for the outcome that YOU started. (get it?).
-Director does not equal god, it just mean the studio is putting you at the head, but they call a LOT of the shots. Adamson could be different, we just don't know.
-WE DON"T KNOW IT WILL BE BAD, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN A SCRIPT FOR MN!!!!, goodness it's like The Queen of Hearts called for punishment before a trial. I don't care that you disagree, but when your only evidence is from another studios botched attempts, it nerves one so. As soon as Fox screws up, I'm on your side. But until then, at least keep an open mind.Please?
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HighQueenKaty
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Which movie? VDT? I personally thought they did an amazing job on it, but I guess we have some people who strongly disagree.
C.S Lewis would've wanted every fan of his books to like the movies, terrible or not. Just think about it.
Aravis Kenobi
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And may I remind you that repeating yourself constantly becomes an annoyance as it doesn't persuade ANYONE to join your side? I don't repeat myself more than twice, after which I stop repeating myself because if it doesn't get through twice, it ain't gonna get through again.
Please. Which movie? VDT? I personally thought they did an amazing job on it, but I guess we have some people who strongly disagree.
I believe BK was referring to his friends' not seeing VDT because of the mess that PC was. If they didn't see VDT because of PC, why see this film? And I don't think Lewis would have wanted these films made. Period. He said as much. Lewis would NOT have wanted "every fan of his books" to like the films if they didn't faithfully portray his material.
Oh, and please don't put a
at the end of you saying "we have people who strongly disagree". It's condescending, especially on a forum where it should be quite obvious that there will be dissenting opinions.
The Spanish Inquisition
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I think it's stupid they're doing this one next. Why not just make them in the order they were written? (Besides, as stated before kids grow fast and by the time the SC is actually made, Eustace will be too old.)
I have not seen VDT (because I absolutely HATED PC), and I probably won't be seeing this one. (Although when then finally make SC, I'm going to have to see it cos it was my favourite book.)
I have not seen VDT (because I absolutely HATED PC), and I probably won't be seeing this one. (Although when then finally make SC, I'm going to have to see it cos it was my favourite book.)
Aravis Kenobi
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I agree with you mostly...except I don't think I'd want to see TSC if it was made. It's my second favorite and the only other one besides HHB that I would be merciless on should it fail as an adaptation. Oh wait...I am being merciless on VDT. And I don't even like the book.
Which movie? VDT? I personally thought they did an amazing job on it, but I guess we have some people who strongly disagree.
Let me make one thing clear before I begin: If you like VDT, and you think the movies are great, that's just fine, and no one is trying to force you to change your opinion.
I enjoyed VDT very much. Nonetheless, there were some flaws in it which bother me.
It's okay for someone else to hate the movie. Even putting aside the argument of how it did or did not follow the book: We will ALL have different preferences for what we want a movie to be like. Just because you and I think that VDT was great doesn't mean that AK is in the wrong for disliking it. It wasn't her thing. Insult to injury was that it didn't follow the book.
I highly doubt that C.S. Lewis would expect us to like movies based on his books, even if the films were terrible. Just think about it. What if there were serious moral issues in the films? Thank God there aren't, but think this through... Would C.S. Lewis want us to still like the movies? Certainly not! Obviously, inappropriate material and not following the book are two different issues. The point is that either way, C.S. Lewis wouldn't want us to uphold and support something that wasn't any good, just because they're based on his books.
I hope that this isn't offensive or confusing. I'm suffering from lack of sleep, so if anything's not clear, please don't get mad at me.
Mozart the Meerkitten
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No. Just No. Personally I don't think Lewis would have liked Prince Caspian or evern parts of Dawn Treader. This is why I'm giving the rights to MY books to my cousin in my Will because she is a perfectionist and wouldn't let anything happen to them that I wouldn't approve of if something happened to me.
I also think the filmmakers should read this thread and seriously reconsider which movie they should do next, which I think is clear: We want Silver Chair! And do it right!
I hope they don't destroy the series or stop making them, as I think I must have a curse for liking Last Battle the best of the Narnia series, because it will probably never be made (or made well) at this rate.
tirian_son_of_erlian
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Originally posted by Soldier of Aslan: Agreed! I think that's why they picked MN, people will recognize the imagery, (lamp post, Jadis, etc.) and if the quality is up to par, then we will see a better return.
Originally posted by Demos: For instance, a MN film can begin with an epic-scale, climactic confrontation (as was done in Jackson's FotR) between Jadis and her sister on Charn. The action builds rapidly and Jadis utters the deplorable word (although her voice is drowned out by a background roaring) and the screen fades to white. The scene then switches to London circa 1900, and we have a doctor telling Digory's aunt that her sister is dying of cancer. THEN Polly meets Digory and you're off and running - the "new" material is based on the actual plot.
You guys are absolutely right, and I hope the filmakers magnify the text. The trailer should be especially interesting. Instead of another "return to Narnia" style preview, we have the opportunity to see a trailer about an adventerous boy in Edwardian London whose mother is dying of cancer, that happens to be connected to Narnia and its creation. I'm hoping the suggested plot will give critics pause to sigh and, in recollection, give Narnia another chance.
Originally posted by Demos: For instance, a MN film can begin with an epic-scale, climactic confrontation (as was done in Jackson's FotR) between Jadis and her sister on Charn. The action builds rapidly and Jadis utters the deplorable word (although her voice is drowned out by a background roaring) and the screen fades to white. The scene then switches to London circa 1900, and we have a doctor telling Digory's aunt that her sister is dying of cancer. THEN Polly meets Digory and you're off and running - the "new" material is based on the actual plot.
You guys are absolutely right, and I hope the filmakers magnify the text. The trailer should be especially interesting. Instead of another "return to Narnia" style preview, we have the opportunity to see a trailer about an adventerous boy in Edwardian London whose mother is dying of cancer, that happens to be connected to Narnia and its creation. I'm hoping the suggested plot will give critics pause to sigh and, in recollection, give Narnia another chance.
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You know, as much as I originally wanted SC to be next, I've just thought of another reason why MN is a better choice - there's already been an adaptation of SC, but there's never been one of MN.
There are probably people who didn't see VDT (and who wouldn't see SC) because they have some vague recollection of the BBC series. Everybody who's got any interest in Narnia will surely be curious about a big screen version of MN.
Also, the BBC series just kind of sputtered out after SC, so maybe that's a bit of a warning, there.
Finally, as has been said before - Fox deserves a true shot at a Narnia movie. All this nonsense about the green mist and the 7 swords were probably a Disney idea, but it was too late to do a major overhaul.
There are probably people who didn't see VDT (and who wouldn't see SC) because they have some vague recollection of the BBC series. Everybody who's got any interest in Narnia will surely be curious about a big screen version of MN.
Also, the BBC series just kind of sputtered out after SC, so maybe that's a bit of a warning, there.
Finally, as has been said before - Fox deserves a true shot at a Narnia movie. All this nonsense about the green mist and the 7 swords were probably a Disney idea, but it was too late to do a major overhaul.
HighQueenKaty
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Okay, to me, the movies were a relief from the boring books. I couldn't even read VDT it was so boring! I thought Prince Caspian was good because instead of having Trumpkin tell his 3-chapter-long tale, they just start it from when the queen was giving birth (which was very, very odd if you were just seeing the movie without reading the books.) But really, I don't care what movie they make next. I just want to see more Narnia! And why should we care if they mess up the movies? At least we're seeing them on the big screen, right? Narnia came to life. We should all be happy and stop all the fuss.
Soldier of Aslan
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The reason some of us are upset, is the the true spirit and moral did not translate well in the last two films, personally I think that now we have the films out of the Disney waters they will rapidly get better. VDT was a plot hole farm, if I've ever seen one.
TheWoodBetweenTheWorlds
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Yes. I definitely agree about Voyage of the Dawn Treader.
I hope that they take advantage of all the extra descriptions in Magician's Nephew, because there are a lot of comments in the book about how Digory was thinking then, or what he would say about the experience if you asked him later.