MERGED thread on Comments re: TV spots, trailers & publicity stills

Ah, I see. Let me ask about the Mod Lounge to see if we want to consolidate some of these. We have to strike a balance between having threads that focus on particular things and thread proliferating like weeds.

*totters off to Mod Lounge...*
 
Oh, Roger, I just merged them without asking! Sorry!

iMerge with another thread on same subject. Let's try to keep the new trailer comments/questions in here. Thanks!
 
Yeah, but if the shot that you're referring to is the one where Eustace-as-a-dragon gets up to meet Aslan, he's still obviously in his dragon form, therefore a "morphing" would be ridiculous.

Look guys, if the filmmakers wanted to allude to the Lamb, they would make it PAINFULLY OBVIOUS to EVERYBODY, not just a couple of people who think they're seeing a lamb's shape. Same goes with Eustace's shadow. The audience is going to know who the dragon is, so why even bother with something that almost nobody will catch? Like I siad before, some people seem to be really grasping at straws with all this "morphing" nonsense, and it's nonsense because nobody else really sees what you guys are seeing. Think what you will, but I somehow doubt that the filmmakers would put in something that nobody gets.
 
Aravis Kenobi, I think it will become obvious that the shadow is a lamb when we see the movie because the shot is longer in the movie. I bet that the full shot of the lamb turning into a lion will be about 4-5 seconds. We get about 1 second of the shot in the trailer so its hard to tell exactly whats going on.

But its not just the legs that change but also the head. And it doesnt just get bigger. The entire shape changes. Here is the difference between the shots we got within that one second of screentime:

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You can see that at the begginning of the shot Aslan is already in the process of transformation. Below is Aslan near the end of transforming.
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I have one more shot of the transformation but its too big to be put here so I'll give you a link: http://s3.narniaweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/0061.jpg.

Now compare the picture in the link to the first image I posted. They don't look at all like the same animal
 
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BarbarianKing said:
So where's the transformation from lamb-chop's curly fur to Aslan's preferred spiky style, uh?
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Yeah, I'm like BK; there is NOTHING there. Good grief. That makes 3 people who seem to "see" this transformation, so I'm going to keep a running score of people who seem to see it.

And in the 2nd shot, did you notice that his legs are the same shape that they are in the first one? :rolleyes: So there's no way he's morphing. Plus, his face doesn't change shape. I don't see where you people are getting that, but it doesn't. It may get larger, but that's only because he's moving and his position to the sun is changing.
 
I hope this isn't too off-topic, but here's a seious problem I have with the producers' reasoning:

They say it is too costly to make a CGI lamb. Ok...well...how about not making a CGI lamb at all. How about renting a REAL lamb from the local zoo. Would it be impossible, after five takes or so, to get the real lamb to stay in place for a good ten seconds and to give us a couple good "BAAS"? Why would having a lamb necessitated CGI in the first place? Aye yai yai!
 
And, I mean, I like, answered my own question, becuase that's like what they did in the BBC version. Surely having just the CGI morph from real lamb to CGI Aslan wouldn't cost anything near CGI lamb + morp from CGI lamb to CGI Aslan?!
 
tirian_son_of_erlian said:
I hope this isn't too off-topic, but here's a seious problem I have with the producers' reasoning:

They say it is too costly to make a CGI lamb. Ok...well...how about not making a CGI lamb at all. How about renting a REAL lamb from the local zoo. Would it be impossible, after five takes or so, to get the real lamb to stay in place for a good ten seconds and to give us a couple good "BAAS"? Why would having a lamb necessitated CGI in the first place? Aye yai yai!
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But then you'd have to take the real lamb, and animate it to have it morph. So, it's the same thing either way really. I don't know how all that works, but you shell out a lot of money for one shot of CGI work. I wish there was some way you could find out how everything is broken down for CGI, like in terms of cost and stuff, but to my knowledge there isn't.

I'm just glad I'm not an animator. :D

(Besides, everything in the movie is CGI for the most part. Having a real lamb in there is one of those things you just about don't do these days anymore!)
 
"They say it is too costly to make a CGI lamb."

tirian, in the grand sceme of the budget, it wouldn't add that much. I think it would have been amazing for them to do it, and we can't be sure that it won't happen. They generally will not show an ending and I don't think the scene we are seeing is the ending, but more of a middle movie scene.

MrBob
 
Most moviegoers are... kinda unobservant. In LotR, the movie-makers never disguised Eowyn. Merry says, "My lady!" when he picks her up, so that even the most unobservant moviegoer can understand that Eowyn is going off to battle.
The Narnia movie-makers would never bother animating a morphing shadow, since only a few people would even notice, and even fewer would understand. If they wanted to do the lamb, they would do a CGI lamb and make it excruciatingly obvious to everyone that Aslan was a lamb.
 
I still have hope! There are others on youtube who claimed to have seen the lamb. I just hope I'm right and there is a long shot of the shadow morphing. It looks like a transformation to be, so I'm pretty sure its in the movie.

And like I said, since the CGI lamb is too expensive, this is probably the next best thing.
 
I confess I was hasty in my criticisms of Eustace's dragon form. I've seen the new trailer and he looks fantastic! The shot of him featured on the poster doesn't do him justice.
 
MissReepicheep said:
Most moviegoers are... kinda unobservant. In LotR, the movie-makers never disguised Eowyn. Merry says, "My lady!" when he picks her up, so that even the most unobservant moviegoer can understand that Eowyn is going off to battle.
The Narnia movie-makers would never bother animating a morphing shadow, since only a few people would even notice, and even fewer would understand. If they wanted to do the lamb, they would do a CGI lamb and make it excruciatingly obvious to everyone that Aslan was a lamb.
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Agreed...

I saw a new TV spot last night featuring Carrie Underwood's new song "There's a Place for Us", and some new clips from the movie. All I have to say is: I held my breath for however long that tv spot ran. :D
 
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