Prince Caspian: Ben Barnes & why is he so old?

I had to go pull out my LOTR , but yeah :) 17 years passed from the day Frodo was given to be caretaker of the ring and Gandalf returned with the news of where the ring came from.

Most hobbits seemed to have lived to 90s or 100s.. except ring bearers.. who usually ended up going another 20 - 50 years.

Wow. I didn't know that.
 
Don't you think he's suppose to be older than 14 (as it doesn't say his age) because he gets married three years later? Then he'd only be 17, and thats a bit young to get married.
 
Yeah..I was just about to say they may be married younger in Narnia. In great houses of Tarkaans, as in HHB, Aravis was going to be married at the young age of 13 or 14 I believe it was. But it may be different in Narnia and Archenland.
 
Yeah..I was just about to say they may be married younger in Narnia. In great houses of Tarkaans, as in HHB, Aravis was going to be married at the young age of 13 or 14 I believe it was. But it may be different in Narnia and Archenland.

That's true too. Of course, that was sort of set back in the Middle Ages type thing, so people in that period got married younger, at like 17 or 15.
 
The unlucky princess, was married off to a conciderably older man right after they hit puberty in the middle ages, so it is better that they married at 16-17 than eleven or twelve.
 
That's true. I mean, good grief, Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker, though not much of an age difference) was playing a nineteen year old kid, yet he was like 22 or 21; and Natalie Portman in Ep 3 was playing a 27 yr. old, yet at the time, was only like 22 or 23. :rolleyes:


22 or 21 and playing a 19 year old is much, much different than a 25 year old playing a 14 year old. And a 22 year old playing a 27 year old is perfectly acceptable.


I'll have you know that the guy who played Pippin was about 25 when they wrapped filming (not sure of his exact age, but he wasn't exactly as young as his character) so what is the big deal?:

So.. if a young person of, what, barely 18, as you said? Can play a near 40 year old man.. why can't a near 25 year old man play a teenager?

With regards to the hobbits in LOTR:

1. They are never meant to portray humans. Hobbits age much more slowly than humans. Plus they live in the Shire, which is this perfectly idyllic, peaceful place. They are going to look younger for far longer.

2. That being said, they are never portrayed as young hobbit boys. There were young hobbits; they looked like normal children, around at the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring to show you clearly their society. The 4 hobbits in question were all young men, a time period which lasted until 60's or 70's for hobbits.


Now WHY do we have Ben Barnes playing Caspian, a person who was a young human Telmarine Boy in C.S. Lewis' Prince Caspian? Why was he even considered?

That is the question. But I think what his selection means is that:

1) Disney clearly intends to stray far from the MEANING and TONE of the original work. The PLOT may stay the same, but other things will change. No longer will Caspian be this wide eyed, innocent, longing youth, but rather a more jaded, man-of-the-world, action oriented, Ulysses type of character. This characterization will strip out much of the meaning and tone from the original work.

2) With Barnes, it can't help but be a darker and much more serious work than the original. In the History Boys (and I saw this play on Broadway) he played Dakin, a manipulating, bisexual 6th former with a huge sexual appetite. Now that’s fine, his character correctly portrays many late teens. And I liked the play a lot. But someone that can play such a character should not even be able to play the boy Caspian as envisioned by Lewis. The boy Caspian knew nothing of such things.


So the tone and the meaning of this classic work are going to suffer. Where were Douglas Grisham and others responsible for maintaining the integrity of Lewis's work when this selection was made? Probably hoodwinked and browbeaten by the intimidating "creative" forces at Disney.
 
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I can't believe I never saw this thread and so have never voiced here my disappointment in the casting of PC until now! (Except over in the other Ben thread.)

I totally agree that the PC story will have to undergo substantial changes in order for Ben to be Caspian, because of his age. He will of course be able to portray a person Will's age, but Will wil be portraying Peter as about five years younger than Will ... so Ben would have to be able to pull about 10 years off his age, and I don't know if that will work.

Also, Cyon I think pointed out in the other thread, that when Miraz's advisors see Edmund who is younger than Peter, remember, they call him a "fell warrior" in contrast with the "boy Caspian." So they apparently think Caspian looks younger than Edmund, let alone Peter.

I still believe Adamson will make us a great movie. I just think it will be different from the book, because of Ben's age. I just hope they haven't made Caspian older so he can have some kind of romance with Susan, which would be awful!
 
My mom says child labor laws. IDK lol


Why weren't any of you mad when Peter, Edmund and Susan were played by somebody older..?

(Georgie was about the right age)
 
My mom says child labor laws. IDK lol


Why weren't any of you mad when Peter, Edmund and Susan were played by somebody older..?

(Georgie was about the right age)

That's true. Or Alex Pettyfer. Goodness knows how old he is and he played a 14 yr. old boy, and pretty much pulled it off. (there was times in the film that you were convinced he wasn't a 14 yr. old.)
 
When we saw the photos of Wiliam and Anna and Skandar, we could easily see: they were kids. A matter of a couple years would make little difference. When you see the photo of Ben, he is obviously a grown man. So it's quite a bit different than when they announced the original actors for LWW.
 
I have this to say, and no disrespect intended, Inkspot. The casting process is finished, so why bellyache about it any longer? As far as I can tell, this matter should be dropped and only discussed on one thread. Build a bridge and get over it. And if you don't like it, again, don't support Disney anymore.
 
I have this to say, and no disrespect intended, Inkspot. The casting process is finished, so why bellyache about it any longer? As far as I can tell, this matter should be dropped and only discussed on one thread. Build a bridge and get over it. And if you don't like it, again, don't support Disney anymore.
Well, the point of the Forum is discussion, and specifically of Narnia, so there's no reason to tell everyone to shut up just if they don't happen to agree with you. We would not have much of a discussion if you decided when everything had been said and told everyone to get over it, would we?

And in most of my posts, I have said I feel Adamson will make a great movie, despite Ben's age ... so I don't really think "don't support Disney" is such a great option for me, since I love LWW and think PC will be a good film. Thank you for the thought, though.

But as you like, iMerge this thread with the Ben thread, and the Ben thread can just become all of us complaining about his age ... :)
 
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I love it too; and who knows? Maybe he won't be as bad when PC comes out. I just feel sick that Adamson won't be directing all seven films. :(

I don't think the report said he definitely wouldn't be doing them all did it?
It just said that they thought he might not want to spend the rest of his life on one series.

I personally don't think Andrew would want anyone else to direct them, so I think he will stay till the end.
That's just my opinion, but I will stick by it until I hear otherwise
(it's all I've got)
 
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