What are your fears about VODT?

An intersting thought but I doubt that was what he was doing, and I don't think they had anything to do with the seven deadly sins for Bern's case in particular. Also the three sleepers were all in the same place when they were found which would seem to suggest that if they had suffered from a sin, it had to have been the same one for them to end up on the same island.
 
Yeah, I don't see it either, but I thought I saw it in the thread so I wanted to see what other people thought. Anyway, Lord Bern can't really be said to have been punished, can he? He got off better than anyone.

Aravis Kenobi said:
I saw the movie and read the book, and just the way the story went made it seem like a Narnia copy.
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Hm. I certainly never saw it that way. The country they visit is never real, and it's not really about that country at all anyway. (Fun trivia: apparently the author wrote it after her young son's friend was struck by lightning and killed in a freak accident, and she wanted some way to address the grief with her son.)

Aravis Kenobi said:
I think there's a difference between wanting to see a movie based on the trailer vs. judging the plot of the movie based on the trailer. I think what the argument in this thread (and on this forum) is the fact that people are judging the movie prior to release; they're not just deciding not to see it, they're deciding that the story has been completely changed and that it's unworthy of a movie ticket. There's a big difference between the two. (I can say that I've decided never to watch harry Potter after the Deathly Hallows preview I saw a week ago; that made my skin crawl, and it wasn't because I was moved.)
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Well, but isn't that a reason not to see it? When I watched the Bridge to Terebithia trailer, actually, my first thought was "My goodness, they've turned it into some sort of terrible CGI magical country story with real magic! SKIP IT." Luckily of course the director was interviewed the next week and said something like "No, no, we're not doing that, the trailer lies." So I saw it. But I frequently decide things are unworthy of movie tickets for plot reasons--sometimes because they've been changed (Avatar: the Last Airbender) or because the plot looks stupid or redundant or ill-conceived or any number of other reasons. I don't see why fans of the books shouldn't judge the movie by its trailer like any other moviegoer.

(Have you read the Potter books? I can't remember. If so--well, you're judging the adaptation by the trailer, right? There's nothing wrong with that.)
 
Animus Wyrmis said:
(Have you read the Potter books? I can't remember. If so--well, you're judging the adaptation by the trailer, right? There's nothing wrong with that.)
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Um, no. I haven't read any of the POtter books and have no intention of doing so because of the stories. No, the movie trailers that I've seen for the movies have made me decide not to see the movies because of the stories, not because of their quality as adaptations. I could honestly care less how close they are to the books; I just don't like associating anything with Harry Potter, and I don't like associating myself with it either. No, the trailer for Deathly Hallows made my skin crawl out of creepiness and disgust.
 
Really? I'm not even a fan of the series, and the trailer for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows has me dying to see the movie.
 
Aravis Kenobi said:
Um, no. I haven't read any of the POtter books and have no intention of doing so because of the stories. No, the movie trailers that I've seen for the movies have made me decide not to see the movies because of the stories, not because of their quality as adaptations. I could honestly care less how close they are to the books; I just don't like associating anything with Harry Potter, and I don't like associating myself with it either. No, the trailer for Deathly Hallows made my skin crawl out of creepiness and disgust.
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Actually, I have to agree with Animus Wyrmis. For someone who doesn't want to judge something prematurely from trailers and reviews, you seem to be making some negative assumptions from what you've heard about and seen from the trailers for Harry Potter.
 
Not that I wantto keep this thread off topic, but I know what the content of Harry Potter is. For that matter, I know what Twilight's content is from the reviews of Christian magazines. I don't care to see any movie that centers on witchcraft, Satanism, and vampires. Maybe there's not a difference, but people are pre-assuming that Narnia is already a disaster.

Let me ask you this: from the trailers for the latest HP movie, can you say exactly what will unfold in the movie? Of course not because it isn't out yet. So how can people say that certain somethings will occur in Narnia when it hasn't been released yet? That's what I'm getting at. Back when LotR was released,I probably could have assumed that the plot would unfold exactly like it did in the books, but I would have been wrong because there were several changes across the trilogy.
 
Well, I've said it before, but I'll say it again. You cannot know EXACTLY how the final movie will be until it's out in the theaters, but the trailers and interviews give a pretty good sample of what the finish product would be like. By watching the trailers and reading the interviews, you pretty much know the direction in which the movie makers are taking the story. Based on that, you can make a judgment on whether it's something you want to see or not.

We pretty much know the direction VODT is taking, and based on that, I do not want to be a part of it. I don't know EXACTLY how each scene will be developed, but I don't need to know, because, generally, I know how the plot is going to develop.

Telling someone no to judged the movie just because we don't know the exact scene is asking him/her to disregard his or hers best judgment and critical thinking abilities.
 
BarbarianKing said:
Telling someone no to judged the movie just because we don't know the exact scene is asking him/her to disregard his or hers best judgment and critical thinking abilities.
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Or it may be a suggestion to wait for the results of the rabies tests before you put down the dog. Trailers may give some suggestion of a movie's contents, but they cannot provide certainty about plot details. They can they discourage you from seeing a movie, but they cannot provide you with a strong platform from which to condemn the movie until you have actually viewed it. I will see the movie, and then decide whether the filmmakers have gone overboard. Michael Apted and Andrew Adamson are two different people, and I want to respect that difference until I see a well-proven reason to think otherwise.
 
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Glenburne said:
Or it may be a suggestion to wait for the results of the rabies tests before you put down the dog. Trailers may give some suggestion of a movie's contents, but they cannot provide certainty about plot details. They can they discourage you from seeing a movie, but they cannot provide you with a strong platform from which to condemn the movie until you have actually viewed it. I will see the movie, and then decide whether the filmmakers have gone overboard. Michael Apted and Andrew Adamson are two different people, and I want to respect that difference until I see a well-proven reason to think otherwise.
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Thank you; not to mention, how many times has Specter said that the trailers don't make the movie appear as it seems? Or something like that, that didn't really make much sense the way I put it.
 
Animus Wyrmis said:
3) Can someone explain how the seven lords are related to the seven deadly sins? I could have sworn it popped up in this thread, and I can only figure that the final three lords kind of count for wrath and greed, and the Dragon Island lord maybe for greed--I can't figure the other five at all.
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I think it would be a real stretch to try to tie the Lords to the Seven Deadlies. After all, only Bern and Rhoop are even characters in the book - the others are either long dead or sound asleep. But any such discussion would belong over in the Prince Caspian book thread.
 
Regarding trailers, I know that quite a few people were very upset after bringing their children to watch Bridge to Terabithia thinking it was going to be a fun fantasy as the trailers showed and then having it be something completely different. That time, the trailers may have turned off the viewers of the actual movie because of the bait and switch.

My biggest fear so far is the sword plotline. I fear they are going to make it too cliche that the swords are the only way to save Narnia from the Dark Island (because we all know Aslan is incapable of that, right :rolleyes: )

I also fear they are going to turn the Dark island into a Nothing entity as it was in The Neverending Story (the book, not necessarily the movie).

MrBob
 
Is anyone here implying that the trailers are not what the movie is going to be about? Do you mean to say that the movie makers are lying, or as MrBob puts it, pulling a bait-and-switch on us? Because it sounds as if that's what people are saying when they say not to judge VODT by the trailers.
 
I don't think the trailers are lying, but I'm personally pulling from watching the trailers for Lord of the Rings, which did include quite a lot of teaser footage in each movie's trailer. I mean, there was quite a bit of shots of Arwen/ARagorn and Elrond that either wasn't in the movie that the trailer was for, or wasn't in the movie at all. Case in point: RotK's theatrical trailer. There were lines by Elrond ("You gave away your life's grace...I cannot protect you anymore"), and there were shots of them both that we never actually saw. Apparently, while they were obviously filmed, they were completely cut from the movie.

The bit at the end of the first trailer with all 4 of the Pevensies seems to me to be teaser footage. I doubt if it will even be in the movie. Ramandu might be in the movie, but we don't know for sure because we haven't seen him or heard anything on him. That's all I'm saying.
 
That's important to remember. I've seen several movies recently where the trailers contained footage that never appeared in the film - including things I thought would have been too critical to cut. That's why I'm suspending judgement until the film comes out.
 
And there was some footage/lines in both the LWW and PC trailers that we never heard...There were some shots of Ed/peter, Lucy/Susan that were never seen in the movie, and lines from Mr. Beaver that were changed in the final cut. in PC, there was a shot of Ben on the horse saying, "I am Prince Caspian", which obviously, was never in the movie.
 
Oh, and I thought of something else. We know about the whole Sword plot thing, but do we know exactly why the swords have to be brought to Aslan/Aslan's table? Could it be that the sword gathering in and of itself doesn't destroy the dark island, but rather Aslan sends them on a mission to conquer maybe personal obstacles?

My point is this: we may know about the plot, but we don't know how that plot will unfold. The whole lost lords/7 swords thing could have a much deeper meaning than what we're seeing. I don't know, that might be far-fetched, but it's something I was thinking about earlier today. All of the plot changes that we know about may not be what we think.
 
I agree. I am not averse to the 7 Swords plot unless it becoes video-gamish, you know? If they've worked it out so it has a meaning that adds to themes, or at least doesn't minimize the themes, of the book, then I am glad. It will be a nice unifying device rather than just randomonly searching islands for the lost lords.
 
Right, same here. As long as whatever they put in doesn't decimate the themes of the book, I don't mind. It will build excitement. I don't know why I am posting in this thread since apparently I don't have many fears! :)
 
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