Why does everyone hate this movie merged with worst change

What was the worst change from the book in your opinion?

  • Interlacing the Caspian sequences between the Pevensie sequences

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Aslan's first introduction

    Votes: 9 6.2%

  • The addition of the raid of Miraz's castle

    Votes: 9 6.2%

  • Peter's added cockiness and arrogance

    Votes: 50 34.5%

  • Susan's romantic affair with Caspian

    Votes: 49 33.8%

  • Caspian's age

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Something else

    Votes: 7 4.8%

  • They were all good

    Votes: 17 11.7%
  • Total voters
    145
Your suggestion raises some chronology problems.

1) What would Aslan be doing while they were all in the How?

2) At what point would the Romp / reawakening / Gwendolen bit occur and who would be involved?

Peeps
 
Would intercutting between the romp and the battle be any different than doing what they actually did in the film by shifting between Lucy`s ride and the battle?
About the only problem with this is that it might have ended up looking a bit to much like the first film.
 
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The theme of the film tried to be that the kids needed to remain faithful even when Aslan wasn't present (which was also a theme of the book), so it would have worked to present the film just as the book was presented: the boys on their own in the How while the girls were romping with Aslan. This would have shown Peter to be more true to Aslan than he appeared in the film, and it would have included some of the loveliest parts of the book. Or they could simpy have had the romp after Aslan's victory, but I think showing them liberating Telmarines and Narnians to bring back to the battle would have been good -- although, as you say, very similar to LWW's denoument.
 
This is a bit more about the actors but another thing about the 'romance' is:

Susan (sorry mind blank on actress name!) wasn't even 18-20 yet?, but Ben was in his mid-late 20s. It seemed quite a gap to be smooching, even if they are supposed to be similar ages in the film. Maybe I'm being a bit 'old fashioned' I don't know. Maybe this was a pointless comment :p, but it's kind of something that also bothers me... - just a smidgen, mind - about the move.
 
Thats funny because in the olden days the age differences between guys and girls that got married was much larger then it was today.
 
"Your suggestion raises some chronology problems."

Peep, I am not currently writing a screenplay for the movie so I don't know about the chronology.:p It's not as if this movie had the chronology right. No one ever saw Aslan in the flesh until the duel, and only then it was Lucy.

"Susan (sorry mind blank on actress name!) wasn't even 18-20 yet?, but Ben was in his mid-late 20s. It seemed quite a gap to be smooching,"

Sir Cabbage, Anna Popplewell was born in Dev 1988. The filming was done, I believe in summer of 2007. That makes her 18. Now iI could be wrong with the filming, but I think I recall that Georgie had her brithday on the set of PC as well as LWW, which would be summer. I also doubt they would have filmed it in 2006 with a 2008 release.

MrBob
 
Anna - that's the one! :) Ooh, she's a few months younger than me then.

Josh - You're right of course about that. I didn't think 'old fashioned' was the best term really. :p I suppose it's just merging generation ideas about the thing, or something.

Okay, so I finished watching it again today, and the battle obsession didn't seem so bad this time around. It could have been better, of course, but I still think it's okay really. :) Caspian does come across a bit naive, be that the right word.
 
I voted for Susan's romantic affair with Caspian as being the worst change. I was shocked when I saw that scene and I didn't think that it fitted well at all into the story line. It's like it was put into the film to give it a little more drama or create a more "grown up" moment. The scene was not needed.
 
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Nellas, the reason why I didn't consider that romantic element the worst change, was because once they DID make the change of turning Caspian into a young adult, it really was not so unreasonable that some attraction could arise between him and Susan. On the other hand, in a society which already programs young people to despise teachers, mentors and honorable role models, ruining the character of Peter on purpose to make him UNQUALIFIED to be a mentor to Caspian was throwing gasoline on the fire. That was by far the worst thing Adamson did.
 
I thought all the changes were good. Each change meant you saw other characters come out of their shell more. Like for instance Peter being Arrogant meant that we saw how much Edmund had changed from the LWW. It gave him a chance to redeem himself.
The Caspian & Susan love interest meant we saw more of Susan's charcter and how she handled choosing between staying in Narnia and obeying Aslan.
The merge of the Caspian sequences and The Pevenises meant that we saw all the bits in a good order. The audience didnt get the whole "I wonder what caspian is doing?"
 
Copperfox said:
Nellas, the reason why I didn't consider that romantic element the worst change, was because once they DID make the change of turning Caspian into a young adult, it really was not so unreasonable that some attraction could arise between him and Susan. On the other hand, in a society which already programs young people to despise teachers, mentors and honorable role models, ruining the character of Peter on purpose to make him UNQUALIFIED to be a mentor to Caspian was throwing gasoline on the fire. That was by far the worst thing Adamson did.
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I don't think that Adamson did a particularly good job of adapting PC at all. I was rather disappointed with the film. Copperfox, I chose the Susan and Caspian romantic element as the worst change because it stuck out to me as being the worst change IMO out of the voting choices. I didn't like any of the changes, that one just happened to be the worst of them for me.
 
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Well, Nellas, you just better get something straight here. You are NOT allowed to look at things any differently than I look at them, unless you want to. Got that?
 
Sammy

As I've said before, I agree that many of the changes were good, but I don't think I could go so far as to say they all were. I think the changes to Peter's character are not good, as CopperFox explained.

Peeps
 
I appreciate what he was trying to do, and arguably there is even some plausibility in it, but unfortunately it has led to the destruction of a key theme of the book and of the series, namely the true nature of kingship and authority.

Peeps
 
Peepiceek said:
I appreciate what he was trying to do, and arguably there is even some plausibility in it, but unfortunately it has led to the destruction of a key theme of the book and of the series, namely the true nature of kingship and authority.

Peeps
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Well said, Peeps!
 
SammylovesNarnia1 said:
With Peter Adamson wanted to explore the changes peter would've had to go through as he went from being a high king to a school boy with no power whatsoever
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Bear in mind that Adamson is the man who, in the Shrek movies, went out of his way to mock and ridicule practically every image or thought of noble idealism. So he figured he would do the same to Peter Pevensie when he could get away with it. But his approach comes near to being cynical pessimism. There have been many persons in real history who lost a position of power and yet DID NOT turn into petulant, whining brats; Ulysses S. Grant and his noble adversary Robert E. Lee both come to mind. Therefore there was NO need to insist that Peter would go wrong that way. It left a bad taste in the audience's mouth, without contributing ANYTHING good to the story.
 
But in the LWW Peter seemed a tad arrogant anyway. He thought himself in charge and disreguarded anyone elses advice. I think Adamson did a good job and by Peter being different it gave other character their time to shine. Peter had his glory in the LWW. It was time for someone else to be in the limelight.
anyways I am not going to argue this as i dont think this is what the thread was for.
 
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