Why does everyone hate this movie merged with worst change

What was the worst change from the book in your opinion?

  • Interlacing the Caspian sequences between the Pevensie sequences

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Aslan's first introduction

    Votes: 9 6.2%

  • The addition of the raid of Miraz's castle

    Votes: 9 6.2%

  • Peter's added cockiness and arrogance

    Votes: 50 34.5%

  • Susan's romantic affair with Caspian

    Votes: 49 33.8%

  • Caspian's age

    Votes: 3 2.1%

  • Something else

    Votes: 7 4.8%

  • They were all good

    Votes: 17 11.7%
  • Total voters
    145
Elentari said:
Exactly marshwiggle...everything that makes us angry--Peter's behavior, Caspian's behavior, Susan's "thing" with Caspian, the cause and effects of the castle raid--NONE of it would have happened if they had followed the book more closely, BUT everything we DID like (Reepicheep, Lucy, the duel) would have because it DID. Even the battle scene where Caspian leads the Narnians to make the ground collapse and the Trees get involved--some of it is artistic license on what Lewis wrote, but none of it ANGERED fans. There's a fine line to draw, but it should be drawn and it should be honored.
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thank you, Elentari. yes,

it's true there have been tidbits of the movie that i liked, especially those that you have mentioned. except perhaps for the ground thing. :) but yes.. the part when Lucy saw Aslan at the gorge was, for me, really great. :)
 
Sorry for the whole 'no avatar no banner thing...'

The kiss, I have to say. They should have just left the whole romance thing alone. Yeah, I wish they'd have stuck closer to the book because for true Narnia fans, it's pretty disappointing. I remember seeing it with my friend and kinda holding out for our favorite part and then.... it doesn't happen. But the worst was the kiss, I have to say.
 
What was your favorite part, that didn't happen? I thought it was quite sad they left out the Romp at the end, and also the Dancing Lawn. Those were some really beautiful moments in the book. But I think the worst of it was what they did to Peter's character.
 
I need to eyeroll at the person who thought it'd be a good idea to have Peter be all the way up to his eyesockets in idiocies. First of all, there was that fight at the station. If I'd expected anyone to get into any fight, Peter would not even have made my top five. Second, there was that ridiculous kind of rivalry with Caspian. It's actually the thing that made me 'grrrr' the most. It just seemed awfully petty of Peter and it just felt like Caspian had no idea what to do with a demented High King. Last, and not least, there was that whole thing with the raid. I am all for raids and fights and darkness and flying... but seriously, was there ever any chance that that plan wouldn't fail as dramatically as Peter's characterisation did? :rolleyes:

I wasn't even this upset about it when I first saw the movie, but if I had to name one thing I really disliked about it... well, there's no real contest there... Peter wins that particular contest hands-down with no competitors. A pity, because I like him a lot in the books.
 
Naturally I agree with Solya. I can say, the second time I saw the film, when I was used to it and was ready for Peter's behavior, I really enjoyed the movie so much more. But the first time, when Peter was a "demented high king," as Solya says, I was very sad. Because really he is Peter the Magnificent. That was definitely the worst change from the book.
 
By the way, speaking purely by internal logic, given the situation they set up in the movie, if they were going to do the raid at all, the FIRST priority should have been to seize Miraz and Prunaprismia as hostages, so Miraz would be forced to release Cornelius, and indeed to do anything else he was told to do.
 
"What was your favorite part, that didn't happen?"

I did miss the awakening of Narnia. I so much wanted to see the boys turn into pigs :D I wanted to see Gwendoline and her grandmother.

I also missed Lucy having to awaken her siblings and Trumpkin as well as the faith walk.

I know they couldn't keep them at the ruins for too long, but I think they rushed the revelation that they were at Cair Paravel. A single chess piece was not really enough evidence to make a guess so quickly.

And really, if you remember the location of the Cair at the end of LWW, it was atop a large, steep hill. I don't remember them climbing that high to get up to the great banquet hall. I can't see that the sea would rise that much.

MrBob
 
MrBob said:
"What was your favorite part, that didn't happen?"

I did miss the awakening of Narnia. I so much wanted to see the boys turn into pigs :D I wanted to see Gwendoline and her grandmother.
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Agreed. That part where the man is beating the boy and turns into a tree would have been REALLY interesting to see. And I LOVE the school scenes, especially the one where the boys turn into pigs--but BEFORE that when the school mistress really wants to follow Aslan and His gentle encouragement. Also the other school scene where the girl--Gwendolen--chooses to follow Aslan and immediately the Maenads "whirled her around in a merry dance and helped her take off some of the unnecessary and uncomfortable clothes she was wearing" . As a young woman who hates socks and shoes, I can sympathize!!! (Note to the unfamiliar: school girls then were described as wearing "ugly tight fitting collars...and thick tickly stockings" with their hair "done very tight"--miserable!) :D

I also missed Lucy having to awaken her siblings and Trumpkin as well as the faith walk.
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A truly amazing and thought-provoking series of scenes, and one I have always connected to strongly, so I missed it very much and was not satisfied with the "substitute", though I am glad they did not take it out altogether. :(

I know they couldn't keep them at the ruins for too long, but I think they rushed the revelation that they were at Cair Paravel. A single chess piece was not really enough evidence to make a guess so quickly.

And really, if you remember the location of the Cair at the end of LWW, it was atop a large, steep hill. I don't remember them climbing that high to get up to the great banquet hall. I can't see that the sea would rise that much.
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They did seem to come to the conclusion swiftly. In the book they don't know for certain until they count the steps going down to the chamber. I guess it would have "taken too long" (which is odd considering the general consensus is there "isn't enough material" in the book for a full-length movie...)

As for the location, the camera spanned up once at ruins that looked LIKE the castle in LWW, but I still had a hard time picturing it when they were up there. I don't remember watching them climb much at all actually, they were just THERE as if it didn't take long or the passage of time was inconsequential to events. As to the sea rising...I doubt I would have noticed much. You must have good eyes or have seen the movie many more times than I, Mr. Bob! :)
 
His character didn't grow though; it regressed, the opposite of growing ... :(

MrBob, and Elentari, I am in complete agreement with all you said. I did so miss all those charming touches, and it is very strange they were trashed considering, as Elentari notes, everyone thought there wasn't enough material in the book for a full-length movie.
 
Basically the undeveloped romance, the cheezy Disney humor, lack of blood, and most of all ASLAN! They just threw him in the last 10 minutes to save the kids from Battle. They could have shown him waking the trees and the river God in a much more beautiful/artistic and moving way. Also I don't like the line change from "No one is told what would have happened" to "We can never know what would have happened."

But overall this movie is way better than the book.
 
Prince Caspian movie vs. the book

When Peter, Edmund and DLF go in the mound , Susan and Lucy are supposed to be with Aslan and the Narnian creatures! right?

Why did they take that out of the movie?
 
This was removed because the overall tune and mood to the movie wouldn't allow for it; it would've looked quite silly and out-of-place as compared with the rest of the film.

Personally, I'm glad they removed it. :eek: Others are disappointed. Either way, we have this film as the film... unless you watch the BBC version of PC. They included it there... I think. (I haven't seen it.) ;)
 
As the others said, they changed the mood of the film. They also changed the time when Aslan made his appearance and chose to make Peter much more doubtful of Aslan's presence, forcing him to make really bad decisions in order to learn his lesson.

In the book, the extent of the doubt was not believing Lucy at the gorge and instead casting the deciding vote to bring them what was to be the wrong way.

MrBob
 
Welcome, missionary. I never saw you post before. I'm one of those who loved the Romp in the book and would have liked to see it in the movie.

iMerge with an older thread about the changes between book and movie.
 
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