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Which is your favorite?

  • Episode IV: A New Hope

  • Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

  • Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

  • Episode I: The Phantom Menace

  • Episode II: Attack of the Clones

  • Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

  • Clone Wars Animated

  • Episode VII: The Force Awakens

  • Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

  • Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

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TheWarriorSatyr said:
It's enough to kill any true SW fan... Why did George lucas do it? Why? Why? Why?

On the other hand, a new Clone Wars episode is out.
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I can only conclude that Lucas sold all his sense of artistic taste to the highest bidder.

I'm excited for the CW episode, though I don't watch the show as much as I would like to be able to do.
 
SunshineRose said:
I'll watch them out of a sort of morbid curiosity to see how they will mangle the original trilogy I once loved.

Seriously, though, I have no idea how they are going to go about this. Are they going to use different characters entirely like Luke's son to tell the story, or are they going to use Han, Luke, and Leia? If they go with the latter course, are they going to bring back the significantly aged Hamill, Fisher, and Ford, or are they going to hire new stars like Pattinson (I cringe at the very notion) to try and fail to live up to the greatness of Ford?

All these possibilities seem like ways to make more of a laughingstock and nightmare out of a saga I loved watching as a child? Why can't Hollywood ever let movie series die natural deaths? Why do they have to milk the golden cow until it doesn't bear the faintest resemblance to an animal?

I'm an optimist, so I wish I could be happy about this, but really I'm just quaking in my boots...
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From what I understand that's happening with the new deal is that Disney is ramping up to do Star Wars: Episode 7-9. Which is the last of the George Lucas Star Wars ( I know we have heard that before, right ) from his original treatments from the 70's. As he's working with them to get'em screen ready.

And then after that, they will produce a new Star wars Film every 2 or 3 yrs. probally based on the many great novels, extended universe and such.

So if it's not everyone's cup of tea, that's cool. I'm a huge Star wars fans and have been for a long, long time. ( yes, I'm well over 25 ) And this is really exciting for me. But I'm an Idiot.
 
Jayce76 said:
From what I understand that's happening with the new deal is that Disney is ramping up to do Star Wars: Episode 7-9. Which is the last of the George Lucas Star Wars ( I know we have heard that before, right ) from his original treatments from the 70's. As he's working with them to get'em screen ready.

And then after that, they will produce a new Star wars Film every 2 or 3 yrs. probally based on the many great novels, extended universe and such.

So if it's not everyone's cup of tea, that's cool. I'm a huge Star wars fans and have been for a long, long time. ( yes, I'm well over 25 ) And this is really exciting for me. But I'm an Idiot.
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I did some reading on Wookiepedia, and it seems to me that what they are saying is that episodes 7-9 would be focused on Luke as a sixty-year-old knight passing on the torch, to use an Olympic metaphor, to the next generation of Jedi. I guess Hamill and Ford and Fisher could conceivably play Han, Leia, and Luke, in that case, which at least takes away my fear of new stars failing to live up to their acting, and means that, if the sequel is meant to take place decades after episode 6, I'm spared the agony of pretending that barely a day has passed after the destruction of the second Death Star. Those two facts are quite reassuring.

I guess my biggest fear is that I honestly didn't like a lot of what the EU did in the post Return of the Jedi world. I didn't care for the whole Yuuzhan Vong War, for example, and the Fate of the Jedi series has just been meh for me. So, if the plot of the sequel trilogy is weird aliens from the fringes of the galaxy invading, color me bored, and if the plot is Luke exiled from galaxy because of failings of others, I'm losing some of my suspension of disbelief. However, if the plot, as Wookiepedia implies, is about dealing with the political fallout of the Imperial era and seeing the dawn of a new age of Jedi, I could probably deal with the sequel trilogy and maybe even like it. (I did find things, such as increased presence of the wonderful Obi-Wan, to enjoy about the prequel series, after all.)

I guess another big hurdle for me now is that, to me, Star Wars was always, at heart, about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. People watched the original movies because Vader was such a terrifying villain, they wanted to figure out who he was, and what horrible thing he would do next, what his connection to Luke was, and whether the love of his son would really be enough to save him. People watched the prequel trilogy because they wanted to figure out how he became a great Jedi and how that Jedi devolved into the monster in the suit. So, after seeing Anakin at peace at the end of ROTJ, I'm not sure that he would have any role (beyond vague Force ghost) to play in the sequel trilogy.

I think it would be a mistake for the Star Wars movies to lose their focus (rise, fall, and redemption of a tragic hero in a sort of modern space myth) and to tear out the thread knitting them all together (Anakin Skywalker). I'm not saying that is what is going to happen during the sequel trilogy, but it is a definite possibility and it would be sad to see a good story weakened because its creator didn't understand that not all ideas have to be shared on the big screen.

I definitely understand being excited. I get all happy whenever I can get a hand on a new SW book:D I don't think that you are an idiot, either. I think that there are good reasons to be happy about this news if you are a SW fan, and valid reasons to be biting your nails about this news if you are a SW fan. Two intelligent people could definitely agree to disagree on this matter of taste:D
 
SunshineRose said:
if the sequel is meant to take place decades after episode 6, I'm spared the agony of pretending that barely a day has passed after the destruction of the second Death Star. Those two facts are quite reassuring.
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:)


I guess my biggest fear is that I honestly didn't like a lot of what the EU did in the post Return of the Jedi world. I didn't care for the whole Yuuzhan Vong War, for example, and the Fate of the Jedi series has just been meh for me. So, if the plot of the sequel trilogy is weird aliens from the fringes of the galaxy invading, color me bored
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That's perfectly understandable, the E.U. can be a hard pill to swallow for many tradional Star Wars fans. Including myself. But I have honestly grown a big affection for it over the yrs. And some of those stories are quite good.


I did find things, such as increased presence of the wonderful Obi-Wan, to enjoy about the prequel series, after all.)
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Oh . . As did I. Ewan played Obi-Wan to pefection.


I guess another big hurdle for me now is that, to me, Star Wars was always, at heart, about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. People watched the original movies because Vader was such a terrifying villain, they wanted to figure out who he was, and what horrible thing he would do next, what his connection to Luke was, and whether the love of his son would really be enough to save him. People watched the prequel trilogy because they wanted to figure out how he became a great Jedi and how that Jedi devolved into the monster in the suit. So, after seeing Anakin at peace at the end of ROTJ, I'm not sure that he would have any role (beyond vague Force ghost) to play in the sequel trilogy.
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Very true, well said, and that will always be the heart of the Star Wars.At least for me.



I don't think that you are an idiot
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That's okay, I do . . .:)
 
And The New Screenwritter for Star Wars: Episode VII is?

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Well it seems the next big motion picture installment in the beloved Star Wars Saga, “Star Wars: Episode VII” ( Yet To Be Named ) is taking shape rather quickly, and word is traveling fast. According to Vulture Magazine, that dashing, Oscar-winning fellow tapped to helm the script is none other than . .

Read more: http://cinemaroll.com/action/and-the-new-screenwritter-for-star-wars-episode-vii-is/#ixzz2Bc55T4QG
 
Jayce76 said:
:)




That's perfectly understandable, the E.U. can be a hard pill to swallow for many tradional Star Wars fans. Including myself. But I have honestly grown a big affection for it over the yrs. And some of those stories are quite good.




Oh . . As did I. Ewan played Obi-Wan to pefection.




Very true, well said, and that will always be the heart of the Star Wars.At least for me.





That's okay, I do . . .:)
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There are some EU stories that I really enjoy. All the Stover books are really good, for instance, as are a lot of the Steve Perry and Michael Reeves ones.

Ewan as Obi-Wan was amazing. He says that he studied Alec Guinness' mannerisms as Ben Kenobi so that he could match those expressions. You can totally see that as you watch the prequel trilogy. I really appreciate his dedication to playing one of my favorite characters right.

Glad we agree about the heart of Star Wars:)
 
Tons more news for ya guys . . .




New Writter Onboard for The Star Wars Trilogy!


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Breaking News on the upcoming Star Wars production. It seems the Hollywood Reporter has the official word that ( see article ) are officially signed to write and produce installments of the new STAR WARS trilogy. It’s not yet known which episodes they will write, or which they’ll produce, but they’re definitely on board. So there you go. Kasdan is back in the STAR WARS fold! Ho bout that. This comes as huge news for fans that were still not 100 percent sold on future films in the Saga . . .

Read more: http://cinemaroll.com/science-fiction/new-writter-onboard-for-the-star-wars-trilogy/#ixzz2DIUDsQT4





Darth Vader Rises Again!

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Well it wouldn’t be a new day in the Star Wars Universe without a bit of news regarding all the impending films that will seemingly continue long after most of us are dead. As of now, Walt Disney Pictures plans to release an original Star Wars film adventure once every two years, beginning with the ubber anticipated, “Star Wars: Episode VII”, arriving in our galaxy . . 2015. But that's only the tip of Disney's plans . . .

Read more: http://cinemaroll.com/science-fiction/darth-vader-rises-again/#ixzz2DIUeS77G
 
New Happings On The Star Wars Front, figured you awesome guys would wanna be in the know. :)



Two Big Director’s Interrested in Star Wars Episode VII!

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Well it seems the running for director of the new Star Wars Movie has taken another turn recently. As of last month, so & so issued a vague statement to the press that indicated how excited he was for Disney’s upcoming “Star Wars: Episode VII”, although he never quite said that he was, or wasn’t . . . up for the open director position. Today, we have recent word that the filmmaker is indeed interested in the project, and that none other than ( see article ) may be in the running for director as well . . .

Read more: http://cinemaroll.com/action/two-big-directors-interrested-in-star-wars-episode-vii/#ixzz2FO4bQgp8
 
"May The Force, Live Long And Prosper."

J.J. Abrams has offically become the director for the next Star Wars Trilogy. What do you think of one man being in charge of both Star Wars and Star Trek? Will this bridge the divide between Trekkies and Starites?
 
Sir Godfrey said:
Sincerely hope that Mara Jade is featured in either EPVII, EPVIII, or EPIX.
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Mara Jade is an awesome character. She, along with Ben, was one of the few characters I could relate to in LOTJ, and so I was so sad when she died:( I hope that we get to see her and Ben in the new Star Wars movies, because they are both so sarcastic and clever and brave that I can't help but love them.

But I would hope that Luke is a less cringeworthy father in the new films (if he is a father at all) than he is in LOTJ. I'm re-reading Tempest right now, trying to see if I like LOTJ better a second time round, and the scene where Luke forces Ben duel with him just makes me want to scream. Part of it is Denning's really sick narration that rubs me the wrong way, because at one point Luke basically thinks to himself that "no good father likes bruising his child even if it made the child stronger and wiser." All I'm thinking is that a good father doesn't leave bruises on his child at all, and that almost all abusive people justify what they are doing by saying it is for the victims own good, so I just start wondering if a galaxy far, far away has Child Protective Services. The other part of it is I simply am too reminded of the duel between Luke and Vader in ESB to not feel that the scene is just twisted.

Fortunately, Luke is a much better father in FOTJ than in LOTJ, and the scenes where he and Ben work together and have adventures and joke around with each other are basically the only parts of FOTJ arc that I can stand.

So, if the movies just forget that the LOTJ Luke who bore so little resemblance to the Luke from the OT (except he had the same name and the same friends) ever existed, and made Luke more like the Luke in FOTJ, I'd be happy. Also, I'd love to see Ben and Mara. They are some of the better characters from the EU, in my opinion.
 
SunshineRose said:
Mara Jade is an awesome character. She, along with Ben, was one of the few characters I could relate to in LOTJ, and so I was so sad when she died:( I hope that we get to see her and Ben in the new Star Wars movies, because they are both so sarcastic and clever and brave that I can't help but love them.

But I would hope that Luke is a less cringeworthy father in the new films (if he is a father at all) than he is in LOTJ. I'm re-reading Tempest right now, trying to see if I like LOTJ better a second time round, and the scene where Luke forces Ben duel with him just makes me want to scream. Part of it is Denning's really sick narration that rubs me the wrong way, because at one point Luke basically thinks to himself that "no good father likes bruising his child even if it made the child stronger and wiser." All I'm thinking is that a good father doesn't leave bruises on his child at all, and that almost all abusive people justify what they are doing by saying it is for the victims own good, so I just start wondering if a galaxy far, far away has Child Protective Services. The other part of it is I simply am too reminded of the duel between Luke and Vader in ESB to not feel that the scene is just twisted.

Fortunately, Luke is a much better father in FOTJ than in LOTJ, and the scenes where he and Ben work together and have adventures and joke around with each other are basically the only parts of FOTJ arc that I can stand.

So, if the movies just forget that the LOTJ Luke who bore so little resemblance to the Luke from the OT (except he had the same name and the same friends) ever existed, and made Luke more like the Luke in FOTJ, I'd be happy. Also, I'd love to see Ben and Mara. They are some of the better characters from the EU, in my opinion.
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I'm certain that the abusive Luke won't be featured in the films because Disney now owns the rights to them. J.J. Abrams would have likely exploited this dynamic to bring an extra intensity between father and son, but Disney will keep him in check. It's important to distinguish a difference between reprimanding/reproving a child and abusing them. If Luke means that by dueling him for the art of defense and does strike Ben because he's trying to prepare him for the Sith, then it is justified because Luke doesn't really want to maim his son, but rather help him become a better sabersman. However, if Luke is using the duel to smite Ben in a malicious way, then it is wrong on all accounts. In fencing you are going to assail each other and so if Luke is merely teaching his son how to fight and defend himself, then It isn't an issue because he's stinging him now so that he won't be slain later.

However, I haven't read the series and so I don't know the details of how Luke is training his son.
 
Sir Godfrey said:
I'm certain that the abusive Luke won't be featured in the films because Disney now owns the rights to them. J.J. Abrams would have likely exploited this dynamic to bring an extra intensity between father and son, but Disney will keep him in check. It's important to distinguish a difference between reprimanding/reproving a child and abusing them. If Luke means that by dueling him for the art of defense and does strike Ben because he's trying to prepare him for the Sith, then it is justified because Luke doesn't really want to maim his son, but rather help him become a better sabersman. However, if Luke is using the duel to smite Ben in a malicious way, then it is wrong on all accounts. In fencing you are going to assail each other and so if Luke is merely teaching his son how to fight and defend himself, then It isn't an issue because he's stinging him now so that he won't be slain later.

However, I haven't read the series and so I don't know the details of how Luke is training his son.
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I don't think in the series LOTF Luke is actually abusive. I just think the author writes the scene in a very bad way, making it sound worse than it is. I think what troubles me is that if a kid who was actually being abused read that moment, they might come away thinking what happened to them was okay, because Luke is a hero and he does it too. it just is that when I read that scene, I think of about fifty less awkward ways in which it can be written, but that story was by Denning, who seems to exist to create awkward EU moments. I wonder where the editor was on that one. They really dropped the ball...

I don't think an abusive Luke will make it to the big screens. No audience would want to see that, and I think Disney still wants to be seen as family friendly, even though Star Wars always specialized in the dysfunctional family.
 
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